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    Just curious what people thought. Who would help win more games—Yak or Westbrick? I can see arguments either way. I obviously can see arguments that neither one should be on the team when we’re trying to rebuild. It also feels like San Antonio is still going to have to either lower their trade demands or somehow maybe make something work with the Lakers… Otherwise, yeah it’s resigning Yak to trade later (which seems unlikely) or waiting till the trade deadline or the off-season, which is probably what will happen.
    Russ would never play a game here. It wouldn’t even be considered, even if he was excited to come. Guaranteed imminent buyout and probably doesn’t have a conversation with PATFO, would be left to his agent.

    Jak was a huge reason for us out perfroming expectations last year. His absence was felt regularly. If Russ played he’d be more useless than DDR. He’d be solid from a tank standpoint

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    … Otherwise, yeah it’s resigning Yak to trade later (which seems unlikely) or waiting till the trade deadline or the off-season, which is probably what will happen.
    Yak is in contract year so would have to be by trade deadline.

    Entirely possible a contending team is looking for backup or average starter Center at the deadline.
    Seems 100Xs more reasonable then paying 47 million for 2 very future draft picks for Westchuck.

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    Jones, Vassell, McDermott, Johnson, Poeltl
    Primo, Richardson, Sochan, Roby, Collins
    Agreed that Jones begins the season as the starter at the point.

    Asking Primo, yet to prove himself as a bona fide NBA player, to not only transition to primary ball handler but do so against starters and in a lineup bereft a secondary ball handler, is a lot.

    No way Sochan or Roby play backup three though. Both in the rotation would require rotational gymnastics, so most likely Langford and Wieskamp, will simultaneously be battling for a roster and fringe rotation spot to begin the season.

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    ^ I understand the hierarchy argument but I think Sochan is the exception to this rule. His intangibles are immediately applicable and he is in a position of need. Should not be hard for him to secure a a backup role very esrly if not out the gate.

    Romeo and to a lesser extent Weiskamp are fighting for a roster spot.z

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    Agreed, but what I'm saying is it'll be at the expense of Roby.

    Fourth wing is wide open. Branham likely seizes it at some point, but not immediately due to a toxic mix of politics and archaic thinking.

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    Yak is in contract year so would have to be by trade deadline.

    Entirely possible a contending team is looking for backup or average starter Center at the deadline.
    Seems 100Xs more reasonable then paying 47 million for 2 very future draft picks for Westchuck.
    How much do you think JAk is worth considering we traded 2 players making in the mid teens, and have 2 current players making above 10 million per year. He's not old yet and does have some value still. If he would sign for something like McDermott money it would not kill the budget. If we trade him, we may get a first but probably not a starting 1st at least not right away. Depending on who we trade him to, gets a very very good backup if not a starter in Poeltl.

    All young teams need at least a few vets to guide the younger players and I wouldn't mind Poeltl being one of them. Trading him for a player and a pick is what his value is right now. You won't get two 1st's unless they are 5-7 years from now, or 2 highly protected 1st's even a few years from now.

    Resigning him is probably the best move.

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    Agreed, but what I'm saying is it'll be at the expense of Roby.

    Fourth wing is wide open. Branham likely seizes it at some point, but not immediately due to a toxic mix of politics and archaic thinking.
    Truthfully I’m most excited for those 7th-12th man battles because hierarchy aside it should show who is hungriest.

    Wesley is the one guy I’d like to see get the gears early though and get tough lovin’ via a near full time Austin assignment.

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    Truthfully I’m most excited for those 7th-12th man battles because hierarchy aside it should show who is hungriest.

    Wesley is the one guy I’d like to see get the gears early though and get tough lovin’ via a near full time Austin assignment.
    I'm "excited" (relatively speaking) for midseason - post trade deadline, when Poeltl and Richardson will have presumably been traded, Primo and Sochan potentially promoted to starters and Branham to rotation and finally, at long last, a starting lineup with reasonable positional size/shooting throughout and bereft a clear defensive liability.

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    I'm excited to just watch our recent additions (Sochan, Branham, Wesley, Roby, Barlow) play, and up and coming guys (KJ, Vassell) continuing to grow. I'm actually optimistic about most of them taking a leap forward, except for one who shall remain nameless to avoid the sh!tstorm

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    I'm just hoping Wesley can show out during training camp and preseason, thus force Pop's hand to play (and start) him much sooner then anticipated.

    He is the "lowest" picked prospect but his combination of raw skills, size and athleticism is tantalizing.
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    Why do the spurs think they can get two 1st round pick for a center with bricks for hands who can't make free throws and gets on by any big who realizes their skin is darker than poeltl's?

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    Haha..... the source of that article is SpursTalk and literally says the trade talks have died off.
    ha, im reading this thread because an argentine newspaper says spurs are interested in campazzo and i figured someone posted the thought in here

    must be another forum i guess

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    campazzo Is a most excellent tank commander

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    ha, im reading this thread because an argentine newspaper says spurs are interested in campazzo and i figured someone posted the thought in here

    must be another forum i guess
    Campazzo to the Spurs makes no sense, unless Pop plans to use him as an inspirational figure like the guy in the movie "Rudy". He should go back to Europe and be an important player on a Euroleague team, rather than a fringe rotation guy in the NBA.

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    How much do you think JAk is worth considering we traded 2 players making in the mid teens, and have 2 current players making above 10 million per year. He's not old yet and does have some value still. If he would sign for something like McDermott money it would not kill the budget. If we trade him, we may get a first but probably not a starting 1st at least not right away. Depending on who we trade him to, gets a very very good backup if not a starter in Poeltl.

    All young teams need at least a few vets to guide the younger players and I wouldn't mind Poeltl being one of them. Trading him for a player and a pick is what his value is right now. You won't get two 1st's unless they are 5-7 years from now, or 2 highly protected 1st's even a few years from now.

    Resigning him is probably the best move.
    Probably the only way we get a juicy offer for Yak is if a contending team has an injury and needs to fill for the Championship run.
    Boston, Golden gots, Lakers? I dunno we'll have to see how this season progresses.

    You would think the Lakers would be most willing to give up picks as they always know their true reload is free agency and scams. They just don't have any!

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    Spurs moved up 13 spots. We gave our 33rd pick to get 20.
    Precisely the point - moving 13 spots up in this draft is the value of a very decent FRP, considering Memphis traded pick 29 to move 3 spots up, from 22 to 19.

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    Dear Spurs,

    please trade Jakob as soon as possible to a contender.
    I wanna get out of here.
    This is a dark place for years to come.

    Thank you!

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    How much do you think JAk is worth considering we traded 2 players making in the mid teens, and have 2 current players making above 10 million per year. He's not old yet and does have some value still. If he would sign for something like McDermott money it would not kill the budget. If we trade him, we may get a first but probably not a starting 1st at least not right away. Depending on who we trade him to, gets a very very good backup if not a starter in Poeltl.

    All young teams need at least a few vets to guide the younger players and I wouldn't mind Poeltl being one of them. Trading him for a player and a pick is what his value is right now. You won't get two 1st's unless they are 5-7 years from now, or 2 highly protected 1st's even a few years from now.

    Resigning him is probably the best move.
    It would be nice to get him into an extension, but he’s said he wants to go into free agency. Even if you have a framework for a deal sketched out, you can’t ever know who might swoop in and overbid. You absolutely cannot let him walk for nothing when he has value.

    We’re in a rebuild, and anyone who can be flipped for assets should be.

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    It would be nice to get him into an extension, but he’s said he wants to go into free agency. Even if you have a framework for a deal sketched out, you can’t ever know who might swoop in and overbid. You absolutely cannot let him walk for nothing when he has value.

    We’re in a rebuild, and anyone who can be flipped for assets should be.
    Assuming Jak’s value is ~15mm when he becomes a free agent teams that will likely have cap space next summer to compete with us are the usual suspects: Indiana, Detroit, Orlando, Charlotte, Utah.

    If the Grizz renounce Adams they could probably resign D Brooks and go after Jak also and he’d be a great fit.

    A sign and trade next summer is possible but this isn’t the DDR scenario where you knew know one could pay him outright.

    Get what you can for him now and if you want him back you can easily outbid his suitors.

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    It would be nice to get him into an extension, but he’s said he wants to go into free agency. Even if you have a framework for a deal sketched out, you can’t ever know who might swoop in and overbid. You absolutely cannot let him walk for nothing when he has value.

    We’re in a rebuild, and anyone who can be flipped for assets should be.
    You're right he wants to test free agency and try to go to the best situation or for the most money, every athlete want that. However not all teams have money to throw around in free agency much like this year where the spurs and pacers have all the cap space. The situation will be a bit different next year. So the spurs still have a small advantage, to make decent trade but that advantage gets smaller as the year goes on to the trade deadline. Make a move now while we still have an advantage or watch that advantage slip away come February if nothing gets done. The spurs should be able to get decent value for Poeltl if they choose to make a trade, just don't trade him for like 2 second rounders 5 years from now. They could also try to resign him if they make a decent offer while its early. Either way they need to act soon or lose an advantage they won't have later.

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    I would think teams would prefer to have Yak in training camp. He isn’t a scoring specialist like Crawford who just comes in and jacks up threes. Yak is a defensive anchor. Anyway. To me that suggests trading him now.

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    I think Jak stays and we resign him. That's my theory.

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    I'm excited to just watch our recent additions (Sochan, Branham, Wesley, Roby, Barlow) play, and up and coming guys (KJ, Vassell) continuing to grow. I'm actually optimistic about most of them taking a leap forward, except for one who shall remain nameless to avoid the sh!tstorm
    Who are you referring to to avoid the storm?

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    I think Jak stays and we resign him. That's my theory.
    I really hope so!

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