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    wrong about pizzagate TSA's Avatar
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    Maybe Stephen McIntyre can tell me if the Ukraine aid got held up and who held that aid up.
    Since you’re being lazy and your begging is downright pathetic...

    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2...mpression=true

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    Was previous Politico/now NYT Vogel also spreading baseless conspiracy theories?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
    Dunno, what does that have to do withJohn Solomon being Parnas/Fruman/Giuliani's personal media magpie running interferenxe for DJT?

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    I'm really stupid.
    I know.

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    No I don't think you do

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    Dunno, what does that have to do withJohn Solomon being Parnas/Fruman/Giuliani's personal media magpie running interferenxe for DJT?
    Opening line

    “After John Solomon ran columns in The Hill that touched off a disinformation campaign against Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden”

    So was Vogel also pushing a disinformation campaign? Solomon and he both reported the same thing.

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    Hunter’s fine Papa Joe not so much.

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    Opening line

    “After John Solomon ran columns in The Hill that touched off a disinformation campaign against Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden”

    So was Vogel also pushing a disinformation campaign? Solomon and he both reported the same thing.
    Dunno, I'm not familiar with Vogel or his sources. What's your take on that?

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    Dunno, I'm not familiar with Vogel or his sources. What's your take on that?
    It’s a well sourced article and Vogel wasn’t pushing a disinformation campaign.

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    It’s a well sourced article and Vogel wasn’t pushing a disinformation campaign.
    If, as you suggest, Vogel and Solomon reported the same story using independent sources and reached the same conclusions then John Solomon would seem to have nothing to worry about.


    You wouldn't lie about something like this, would you, TSA?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 11-12-2019 at 10:00 PM.

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    Does John Solomon still have a job at The Hill? He sure has clammed up since Fruman and Parnas got popped.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/g...nspiracies/amp
    The On the Media podcast had a great story on Solomon that shows what a terrible piece of he is and how rubes like TSA were taken in by him time after time.

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    Since you’re being lazy and your begging is downright pathetic...

    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2...mpression=true
    Is this your Chalupa Grande conspiracy theory again?

    lol you gullible rube

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    Hunter’s fine Papa Joe not so much.
    Why not? What’s your conspiracy here?

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    If, as you suggest, Vogel and Solomon reported the same story using independent sources and reached the same conclusions then John Solomon would seem to have nothing to worry about.


    You wouldn't lie about something like this, would you, TSA?
    What is John Solomon worries about? And no there is nothing to lie about.

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    Why not? What’s your conspiracy here?
    Terrible optics for a candidate.

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    rube

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    What is John Solomon worries about? And no there is nothing to lie about.
    His employer seems to be concerned John Solomon has compromised himself -- possibly in a career ending fashion -- and might being discredit to them as well.

    But, since you've given John Solomon a clean bill of health, they probably have nothing to worry about

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    =5th time
    Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.
    Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
    Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.
    The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Another yes.
    We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    You might find this link helpful:
    https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e
    [repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
    The question remains.
    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
    The question remains.
    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
    The question remains.
    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [ignores question, posts tweets]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
    The question remains.
    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [ignores question, posts tweets deflecting from central question of impeachment]
    Not really an answer to my question.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
    The question remains.
    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. [6th time]
    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [ignores question, answers other posts]
    [RG repeats question several more times, TSA ignores until finally...]

    [Link showing that yes this aid was held up for months after being approved, and was held up directly by Donald Trump]
    I don't think having to repeatedly ask you the same question when you aren't honest enough to answer it is lazy. At the very beginning of this thread gave you a link that said exactly that, but was simply trying to get you on the record.

    So after over a dozen times being asked a question, we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

    Now we can continue.

    Why was that aid held up?
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 11-12-2019 at 10:40 PM.

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    [RG repeats question several more times, TSA ignores until finally...]



    I don't think having to repeatedly ask you the same question when you aren't honest enough to answer it is lazy. At the very beginning of this thread gave you a link that said exactly that, but was simply trying to get you on the record.

    So after over a dozen times being asked a question, we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

    Now we can continue.

    Why was that aid held up?
    [Link you didn’t read says why aid was held up]

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    His employer seems to be concerned John Solomon has compromised himself -- possibly in a career ending fashion -- and might being discredit to them as well.

    But, since you've given John Solomon a clean bill of health, they probably have nothing to worry about
    So what does John Solomon have to worry about? Should Ken Vogel be worried about the same?

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    Terrible optics for a candidate.
    He's a terrible candidate to begin with... this is the problem with scrapping the bottom of the barrel, tbh

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    So what does John Solomon have to worry about? Should Ken Vogel be worried about the same?
    Unless Vogel was also taking dictation from the President's personal lawyer and his mobbed up cronies in service of DJT's shadow diplomacy in Ukraine, he probably has nothing to worry about.

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    Even if that were true (has been repeatedly debunked,) the bona fides of the whistleblower is more or less moot at this point. The ICIG found the complaint credible, then Trump, Mulvaney, the "transcript," and multiple WH staffers corroborated the substance of his complaint.

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