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With 46 games left, it's highly doubtful that Duncan will get 31 more double-doubles. He just won't play enough minutes (or games, for that matter).
He should get it sometime in December or January next season.
Duncan is steadily closing in to become the all time double double leader just another meaning less but interesting feather in his cap. According to espn stats http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/215/tim-duncan Duncan currently has 780 double doubles all time only 31 behind db karl malones 811. Duncan great and as steady as they come as always win or lose it's great to be a Spurs fan.
With 46 games left, it's highly doubtful that Duncan will get 31 more double-doubles. He just won't play enough minutes (or games, for that matter).
He should get it sometime in December or January next season.
Duncan is steadily closing in to become the all time double double leader just another meaning less but interesting feather in his cap. According to espn stats http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/215/tim-duncan Duncan currently has 780 double doubles all time only 31 behind db karl malones 811. Duncan great and as steady as they come as always win or lose it's great to be a Spurs fan.
And Malone is only 157 Double Doubles behind Wilt Chamberlain, 83 behind Moses Malone, 79 behind Elvin Hayes and 74 behind KAJ. But yeah, he's moving up the chart.
Jabbar is 83 behind Wilt and he still played 8 more years.
Easily the most overrated player in sports.
Yeah, because the era Wilt played in had nothing to do with that.
Easily the most overrated player in sports.
Unless you want to compare Wilt to Duncan straight up, in which case Wilt's numbers basically destroy anything Duncan has ever done.
60s nba/aba. I don't count any of that . wilt against teams full of midgets. no way he would get any of those stats even in todays nba.
You have no idea what basketball in the 50s/60s was like, do you? There's a little something called "pace". What, you think Wilt/Russell were just so much better at rebounding than Dennis Rodman that they averaged nearly 10 more rpg consistently than Rodman's best rebounding season ever? Not to mention the compe ion wasn't equal.
Easily the most overrated player in sports.
I'm not even trying to hate on Wilt. But just bringing up raw box score numbers as some sort of proof he was clearly superior to everyone else makes you look ignorant.
Let me ask this: do you seriously think Wilt could average 50 ppg/25 rpg in today's league? Or even in the 80s?
It's pretty funny a Spurs (and I'm assuming, Duncan) fan would hate on Kareem and call him the most overrated player ever. They're pretty similar. Two athletes who have had some of the best longevity in basketball history, amazing defenders who could also carry the offensive load of a team (Duncan was a bit better on defense, but Kareem was unquestionably better offensively), won several les with the same team...what about Duncan is so different than Kareem?
I have a notion that it had much more to do with the rules and shooting percentages. I forget when the rule was changed but you used to be able to throw the ball off the backboard and go get it. That counted as a board. He kicked so much ass with it that they changed the rules.
I have actually watched a lot of Chamberlain. They showed old NBA film at basketball camp every year and I have always had an appreciation for it.
All of this is besides the point because Chamberlain and Jabbar were contemporaries. People just associate Jabbar with the current era because he played for 22 years.
Wilt played from '59-'73. Kareem played from '69-'89. I'd hardly call them contemporaries. Kareem still had great success even in the 80s when he was 30+ years old. Dude averaged 20+ ppg every season until he was 39 years old in '87.
I don't associate Kareem with the current era, but I certainly think he played in a more comparable era (to today's league) than Wilt. When Kareem played in the early 70s where basketball was more similar to Wilt's era, he was averaging 30+ ppg and over 15 rpg.
I just don't see how Kareem is overrated at all...much less the most overrated player ever. He's undeniably a top 5 player of all-time.
Thats a bit misleading. Wilt retired in 74, i believe, Kareem came in in '69. They played 5 seasons in the NBA together then Kareem played 15 more seasons. They were as much contemporaries as Duncan and Patrick Ewing were. Wilt was much older than Kareem.
Wilt was an freak of nature, and way before his time. He was a legit 7'1 and athletic back then. He could absolutely dominate the league with his size on top of skill.
That makes Russel a bit overrated too. It was an 8 team league. 13 les in 14 seasons, before free agency. It was essentially a keeper league. A team drafts well and they have a guy for 14 seasons. Duncan winning 4 les in 9 seasons is every bit the equal to that in modern day standards.
lol, FuzzyLump z destroyed in this thread
They are so similar Duncan could play Kareem's part in "Airplane!" right now. Almost the same age. Same build. It is too funny.
Per par.
similar era
Jabbar's heyday was in the ABA era where he could duck everyone from Moses Malone to Artis Gilmore. Half of the all star big men were in the ABA. It is quite easily the most watered down era of pro basketball. Jabbar couldn't get anywhere during said watered down era as he missed the playoffs, had early exits etc. Compare that to the 60's where there were only 8 ball clubs and they had HoF on them like Thurmond, Lucas, and Russell. Wilt was in game 7 of the ECF yearr after year suc bing to the greatest team of all time.
The league saw a dozen or so expansion teams during Jabbar's career.
Quite frankly, the more you write the less I see you as having a legitimate historical perspective.
Jabbar played a long time and had the benefit during his career of playing with the two best PG of all time who carried him to championships. In the interim between them he himself led mediocre team after mediocre team and his MVP's in that ty watered down league are laughable. He is overrated precisely because some want to label him GOAT.
on what points am I being destroyed? I bet you don't have the capacity to articulate any at all.
it is funny that you and tweedledum are trolling me like this. Ass still chapped?
the 60s NBA was before expansion and the early portion before the ABA had great collections of talent.
Before 1965 there were 8 teams and guys like Lucas Thurmond Russell and Wilt. Compare that to today where DeJuan Blair starts at C amongst 30 other teams.
And to revisit this. Ewing played until he was 40; whereas, Wilt stepped down at age 36. It would be like saying that Duncan is a contemporary of David Robinson who retired at age 37.
"The more you write the less I see you as having a legitimate historical perspective" --> proceeds to say Oscar Robertson carried Kareem to a championship in '71. Seriously?
The year before Kareem came to LA, they were arguably the worst team in the league. You seriously knock him for not coming in and immediately leading them to success? First year he was there they were 10 games better than the previous year. 2nd year he was there they lost in the 2nd (maybe 3rd, can't remember) round to Walton's Trail Blazers who won the le that year. The next two years he lost to the Sonics who were a flat-out better team than LA, and it wasn't because Kareem wasn't good enough. Those '78/'79 Sonics teams just had more talent. They made the Finals in both years and just had more talent than those Lakers teams. If you really want to knock Kareem for not being able to carry clearly inferior Lakers teams over the superior Sonics, then go for it I guess.
As for Kareem/Magic: it's a two way street. No Kareem benefited from playing with Magic. But you're delusional if you don't think Kareem was a huge part of Magic's success. Please don't even think about pointing to the closeout game of the '80 Finals as some sort of proof that Magic didn't need Kareem to win a le that year. It was a mutual beneficial relationship on the court. Not to mention Kareem was 32+ years old by the time the 80s came around...you really expected him to carry teams to a le all by himself? How many les has Duncan carried the Spurs to since he turned 32?
I'm not sure I've ever heard someone label Kareem the GOAT...pretty sure MJ is the consensus GOAT. I hear Russell brought up as his compe ion far more than Kareem. I just hear people say Kareem is a top-5 player of all-time and 2nd best scorer of all-time behind MJ. I don't see the problem with those labels.
You look at the roster on the 03 and 05 chamionships. Who on those rosters was comparable to prime Johnson or Robertson? Duncan carried those two teams mostly by himself.
Or better yet who on any Spurs roster over the past 17 years is comparable to Kermit Washington who Jabbar would literally hide behind. In 71, Jabbar ran into the stands when Chamberlain stepped to him after he flattened Goodrich on a cheap shot.
As for a physical comparison, it's laughable. Duncan lost 25 or so pounds lately but in his heyday he was hardly the leaping gazelle Jabbar was. Jabbar was as athletic as Deandre Jordan. Duncan has always been known a s a good athlete who played elite because of his skill.
I think a better question is what on earth post moves do you think Jabbar used that Duncan did. You see Duncan jumping over people with his sky hook ad nauseum? This look like Duncan to you?
And if you don't see Jabbar in the discussion of GOAT then I don't know what to tell you. Google is your friend. Its rather common.
I listed the reasons for calling them pretty similar, which as far as I know, doesn't equate to "identical". No, they did not use the same post moves. No, they didn't act identical. They were both transcendent big men on both sides of the ball (how many players can you say that for?) and experienced unreal longevity spending nearly 15 years with the same team while winning championships. They're not ing twins...just have some similarities. No need to point out every difference in their careers.
Your reasons were 'good at defense' and 'good at offense.' It was so generalized as to be meaningless. What's next? They both play basketball?
Transcendent? WTF is that supposed to mean? Good?
And Duncan played for one team. How many teams does Alcindor/Jabbar have rings with? Hmm...
They were both big men who had an elite impact on both sides of the ball and played well over 10 years with the same team while winning several championships. Answer the question: how many players can you say that for?
Kareem winning a ring in '71 has nothing to do with him playing 14 seasons in LA and winning 5 rings there. Winning 5 championships in a 14-year tenure with a single team isn't common by any means. Similarly, Duncan has won 4 rings in 16 (going on 17) seasons with the Spurs.
Also, how many players have played at an elite level past 35 like both Duncan and Kareem?
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