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    START Carroll? he can't even get on the court in garbage time. He will be the first Spur to depart. I don't know how PATFO signs a free agent to 7MM/3 yrs to bury him on the bench. Didn't they talk to the guy before they signed him and realize they hated him beforehand?
    That's on Pop. Carroll is still a better player than Lyles

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    That's on Pop. Carroll is still a better player than Lyles
    Of course it's on Pop. Signing Carroll is the weirdest FA signing EVER by PATFO. They signed a guy and immediately discovered they hated him?

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    To be fair, I was calling for the same things back in preseason while you were marveling at Bryn Forbes' "redemption arc"
    Love that your embracing your inner edgelord and twisting the narrative...But I'll own commending that loser for having a good preseason and when I was expecting him to play alongside Murray/White

    Don't worry - you'll always have a place here on EdgelordTalk tbh.

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    Love that your embracing your inner edgelord and twisting the narrative...But I'll own commending that loser for having a good preseason and when I was expecting him to play alongside Murray/White

    Don't worry - you'll always have a place here on EdgelordTalk tbh.
    How is it twisting? That's literally what you said ... but with some extra flowery language added to it.

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    How is it twisting? That's literally what you said ... but with some extra flowery language added to it.
    I don't feel too strongly about that one as much as my "Pop is a senile " quote. Can we pull that one up on the search bar?

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    I don't feel too strongly about that one as much as my "Pop is a senile " quote. Can we pull that one up on the search bar?
    Hold on let me fire up the gerbils to turn search back on . . .

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    Hold on let me fire up the gerbils to turn search back on . . .
    It's not Kori putting on some type of cerebro helmet a la Professor X?

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    Hold on let me fire up the gerbils to turn search back on . . .
    Richard Gere post

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    Ooh, Jesus Christ!

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    Eh, will be between one and two weeks, IMO. Didn't he finally stop starting Cunningham a few days after Thanksgiving last year? Steve Smith got the hook pretty early too in 2003 but not instantly.
    What do you think will be the adjustment? Bc it probably should be not starting Forbes and he has some alternatives like Caroll, Keldon Johnson or Walker. But I cannot see Pop giving opportunities to the rook or the sop re he has in the doghouse and I have no idea what’s up with Caroll. However Pop has alternatives, there probably will be some growing pains but he just needs to do something.

    Pop could also start Murray/White.

    It’s the prospect of having Forbes off the bench with Mills that’s unappealing. As such, in the current team landscape Forbes probably shouldn’t be playing. If he doesn’t start, he can’t come off the bench paired with Mills. That’s the reason Pop is not adjusting this rotation imo. He’s too reluctant to bench Forbes. Going to take a few more losses and some demoralizing ones b4 a change or Forbes has to get injured and we shall see how things look with someone else.

    They probably would suffer growing pains and not be better straight away bc it’s a lineup change with new guys (and maybe young guys) But Forbes isn’t a starter for a team that wants to prioritize defense and compe iveness. It’s not that he’s a scapegoat but you have to make some adjustments.

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    without Steve Smith getting hurt and missing games 2 through 9, I doubt Jackson ever gets the chance to play big minutes and worm his way into relevancy

    I don't know if any amount of losing by itself would do the trick. If Marco or Mills or DeMar missed 8 straight games, then it would be a real opportunity to see what Walker or Carroll could have to offer, not just in one-off stints like has happened so far
    I have thought of the injury factor too. Mills and Forbes are two of the most resilient Regular season heavy minutes eaters the team has.

    The chances are better for Marco to get a sore groin or something but he doesn’t strain himself too much these days.

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    Heck, I feel even last year he was solid enough. This year? Not only has he been bad - it’s like he’s being paid to throw games.
    Good point. I remember a few wins early in the season last year when their defense was atrocious that were pulled by clutch play from Derozan. Perhaps it’s mental, not getting his extension and his fragile depressive psyche.

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    I feel like something had to have happened behind the scenes with Carroll and Pop. It makes zero sense that he’s barely getting even a minute a game.

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    Does anyone here think missing the playoffs is ok now because all the big 3 are retired?

    Does Pop get one year where his team doesn't exceed expectations?

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    Does anyone here think missing the playoffs is ok now because all the big 3 are retired?

    Does Pop get one year where his team doesn't exceed expectations?
    Sure I'll give that to him, only if it's his last year.

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    Sure I'll give that to him, only if it's his last year.
    So on your list of best head coaches, which of them haven't missed the playoffs in the past 10 years? 5 years.. last year..?

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    So on your list of best head coaches, which of them haven't missed the playoffs in the past 10 years? 5 years.. last year..?
    Nick Nurse

    I don't care about making the playoffs. I'd be fine if the Spurs missed the playoffs if they were building towards the future and playing the young guys a ton. That ain't happening.

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    If a head coach in "Today's NFL" said he refused to throw the ball at a significant higher clip than running the ball how long would he remain Employed?

    This is the same thing, but Cultists of Pop on here see it a different way. Maybe they don't watch the NFL football.

    Popsuckers and the MEDIA(except for Calvin on the Sports Grind) to afraid to call this TOSB out on this total embracing of being mediocre.
    If Tom Belichick said it then it would go over about the same as it did when Pop said it. Same level of respect same idea.

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    Pop used to be the old wiz in the park playing chess and now he just plays bingo in the retirement home.

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    Only injuries can save Pop from his own stubborness.

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    Pop used to be the old wiz in the park playing chess and now he just plays bingo in the retirement home.
    spot on

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    spurraider21 - we're almost at the end of November and the Raiders have more wins than the Spurs

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    Some of you in this thread are funny. Last year you all wanted to tank for the lottery. This year the Spurs are losing games and on this trajectory appear to be on the way to doing that and are upset about it.

    There is nothing this team is going to do overnight that is going to fix this. Might as well ride this out for another few weeks and then evaluate where we are at.

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