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    Sure, bud. We knew the daddy issues were coming right up.
    You're still not making any sense... you said I couldn't vote for president "until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran"...

    I voted Biden, which clearly is nowhere near the most racist candidate in the past 8 years for starters, much less in the past century or ever... unless you took history classes from the backpage of Mad Magazine...

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    You're still not making any sense... you said I couldn't vote for president "until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran"...

    I voted Biden, which clearly is nowhere near the most racist candidate in the past 8 years for starters, much less in the past century or ever... unless you took history classes from the backpage of Mad Magazine...
    So it was Trump that imprisoned the most blacks and claimed that he didn't want his kids living in a racial jungle?

    You got daddy issues, bro.

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    So it was Trump that imprisoned the most blacks and claimed that he didn't want his kids living in a racial jungle?

    You got daddy issues, bro.
    Biden didn't imprison a single black person, tbh... he did support laws that eventually imprisoned people of color, that's a claim you can make about any lawmaker, tbh...

    That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says, did or does. Heck, I didn't like him as a candidate, expressed so many times in here. He was just useful to remove a historically terrible president.

    You second claim is fake news, no surprises there:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rk/6045749002/

    On the other hand...

    “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks,”

    “I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it,” Trump told John R. O’Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, according O’Donnell’s account in his 1991 book “Trumped!” “The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”
    Trump, according to O’Donnell, went on to say, “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

    In an interview with NBC News in September 1989, Trump remarked, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market.”
    He continued: “If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”

    “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,”

    “I’m leading in the polls with the Hispanics. I mean, you look at Nevada, I’m leading in the polls with the Hispanics because I produce jobs, and they know it. I have thousands of Hispanics that work for me, my relationships to Hispanics is better than those groups,”

    “Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked in response, using a racial slur for the Japanese.

    A year prior, in 2017, the New York Times reported on two of the comments at hand – that Trump said during a session with his national security team that all Haitians “have AIDS” and that once Nigerian immigrants had seen the U.S. they would never “go back to their huts.”

    'Proud boys: Stand back and stand by.'

    'They should be executed.'
    Trump made this comment about the Central Park Five, a group of Black and Latino men wrongly accused of assaulting a white female jogger in 1989, in a newspaper ad he purchased in 1989. Asked about it again in 2019, he did not apologize for his comments.

    'Kung flu'
    The president first used the phrase “kung flu” to describe COVID-19 in June at a Tulsa, Oklahoma, rally. As the Washington Post reported, it became a rallying cry for the crowd.

    'Go back to crime infested places from which they came'
    Trump tweeted this statement in 2019 about an unspecified group of “progressive Democratic congresswomen,” most likely Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib, also known as “the Squad.”

    'Very fine people on both sides'
    The president made this comment in 2017 in response to violent confrontations in Charlottesville, Virginia, between white nationalists and those opposing them.

    list goes on, tbh... these are probably just the most prominent. About 3/4 of them direct quotes.

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    Funding didn't come from government on that Oakland program, otherwise that could open the door to discrimination claims. It's just too easy and popular nowadays to rile up useful idiots with clear skin to make them think they're victims of something or another.

    Plus, there's absolutely nothing wrong with targeted help toward minorities (which normally end up closely delineated by race, unfortunately). This country has had programs like affirmative action since the 60's. The reason they exist is to combat actual, measurable discrimination towards such minorities, which present itself in a mul ude of ways, from socioeconomic disadvantage, to longer sentences for the same crime, to inability to obtain an education on par with their wealthier peers, etc.

    That's why the whole concept of reverse discrimination or victim card is extremely phony. I get that certain whiteys don't want to lose their privilege (heck, I enjoy it very much while it's there. Despite being hispanic, my euro lineage and looks bought me a membership card, tbh), but from that to pretend you're being persecuted by dem black or brown folks is simply ridiculous.
    I simply don't believe this stuff is necessary because demographics are naturally changing thru birth rates and immigration. There are/will be shortages in white male dominated fields opening the door for others.

    To help these people you must first give them a label by race, gender, faith, sexual preference. That is the irony to me. The very people arguing we are all equal 10 years ago now want to pigeon hole us. Smells ideological to me, not some scientific epiphany. I.e people are obtaining degrees, getting jobs and creating fortunes preaching about skin color. They need an audience, they need so-called victims.

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    I simply don't believe this stuff is necessary because demographics are naturally changing thru birth rates and immigration. There are/will be shortages in white male dominated fields opening the door for others.
    The bolded implies there are white male dominated fields, which is exactly what systemic racism is.

    To help these people you must first give them a label by race, gender, faith, sexual preference. That is the irony to me. The very people arguing we are all equal 10 years ago now want to pigeon hole us. Smells ideological to me, not some scientific epiphany. I.e people are obtaining degrees, getting jobs and creating fortunes preaching about skin color. They need an audience, they need so-called victims.
    But you can't reduce the problem to what is it now. That's absurd reductionism. It's what's been going on in this nation for decades upon decades where 'normalcy' meant things like 'separate but equal' at one point, or if your skin is dark we ought to shoot first ask questions later, or when white guy get caught DUI the third time he gets 2 years probation but a black guy caught with weed sits in jail for 3 years, or even basic social things that are deeply ingrained in society because it's been (incorrectly) the 'normal' for many, many decades (sometimes can even be subconscious), like colored people having to pay more deposit or rent for the same apartment than white people, or requiring them to have more collateral when buying a property/getting a loan, or getting paid less for the same job than their white counterparts.

    People of color do encompass a good portion of underserved and/or poor population in this country and it's not generally because they're lazy, but because they encounter a lot of these artificial barriers that are statistically measurable, and a good chunk of white people largely don't even know they exist.

    Changing things like that don't happen overnight, sometimes they don't happen even over a century. The American Civil War ended in 1865, and the Civil Rights Act wouldn't actually outlaw discrimination for another 99 years. It hasn't been 60 years since this country had to pass that legislation because discrimination on the basis of color, religion, etc was still rampant. Sure, progress has been made over all that time-span, but there's clearly much more to do to both educate and bring consciousness to it. And there's obviously some push back as well from people that think colored people are inferior or that they have some sort of right to their privileges or simply don't want to share or lose them.

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    The bolded implies there are white male dominated fields, which is exactly what systemic racism is.



    But you can't reduce the problem to what is it now. That's absurd reductionism. It's what's been going on in this nation for decades upon decades where 'normalcy' meant things like 'separate but equal' at one point, or if your skin is dark we ought to shoot first ask questions later, or when white guy get caught DUI the third time he gets 2 years probation but a black guy caught with weed sits in jail for 3 years, or even basic social things that are deeply ingrained in society because it's been (incorrectly) the 'normal' for many, many decades (sometimes can even be subconscious), like colored people having to pay more deposit or rent for the same apartment than white people, or requiring them to have more collateral when buying a property/getting a loan, or getting paid less for the same job than their white counterparts.

    People of color do encompass a good portion of underserved and/or poor population in this country and it's not generally because they're lazy, but because they encounter a lot of these artificial barriers that are statistically measurable, and a good chunk of white people largely don't even know they exist.

    Changing things like that don't happen overnight, sometimes they don't happen even over a century. The American Civil War ended in 1865, and the Civil Rights Act wouldn't actually outlaw discrimination for another 99 years. It hasn't been 60 years since this country had to pass that legislation because discrimination on the basis of color, religion, etc was still rampant. Sure, progress has been made over all that time-span, but there's clearly much more to do to both educate and bring consciousness to it. And there's obviously some push back as well from people that think colored people are inferior or that they have some sort of right to their privileges or simply don't want to share or lose them.
    That's not systematic racism. When most these men joined the work force, they were a significant majority of the population. If anything it was systematic genderism

    It's not a colored thing. It's a black thing, backed by data that illustrates they destroy rented property and don't pay their loans (I'm generally speaking here). Not to mention the crime, oh lord all the crime they commit. Asians are thriving and by and large so are Mexicans. I watched 'Living Undo ented' last night. Guy did a month journey to sneak into America and was working the following day. Inspirational.
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    last thing they want is the vast majority (lower/middle class) joining up and shaking things up
    Yup genius to form a 2 party system tbqh. You can always keep 2 sides arguing w each other.

    I can imagine the builders of this system:

    "Ok you nigas take abortion rights. We take gun rights"


    "Ok fine. But we take gay and minority rights, you take religious rights"

    "Deal nig. These fools will be running in circles while we rob them blind "

    " this is too easy"

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