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    Why not run both Bell and Conner? Ya know, Taylor/Hornung, Mack/Byner, Csonka/Morris, Casares/Galimore, Brown/Mitc etc.


    We all love $$$$$$$$ but sometimes ya just have to do the right thing. What Bell did was ridiculous. This I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY TEAM PAY ME.....sucked and was stupid. Sure it's a business but just how much damn $$$$$ does a guy need?

    Most of us make it just fine with just a fraction of what pro athletes make. Greed is ugly.
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    carolina's pass pro has been atrocious, no doubt. but cam keeps trying to sit in the pocket as if suddenly the OL is going to get their act together.

    no. at the top of his 5 step drop, the ball has to be OUT. throw it away if need be. but he keeps hanging in there unnecessarily and getting himself sacked
    He must have watched Dak on Monday.

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    We all love $$$$$$$$ but sometimes ya just have to do the right thing. What Bell did was ridiculous. This I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY TEAM PAY ME.....sucked and was stupid. Sure it's a business but just how much damn $$$$$ does a guy need?

    Most of us make it just fine with just a fraction of what pro athletes make. Greed is ugly.
    Most of us don't have enough " you" money to be able to quit work for a year. If Bell truly believes that what he did is in his best financial interest, then it's hard to fault him for turning down an contract that would have left him exposed had he gotten an injury.

    That being said, it seems like he overvalued himself and Conner's success had kind proved that. Bell took a risk and right now, it looks like he miscalculated.

    Now he's in a bad spot. Other NFL teams are surely looking at this and thinking "Bell is good, but how much was Bell and how much was the system he was in".

    And now, for his gamble to pay off, he has to come in and be better than Conner. And probably not just a little better.

    And if he is better and the Steelers decide to make him the #1, he's got about a half a season to try to do well and hope he doesn't get injured.

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    Most of us don't have enough " you" money to be able to quit work for a year. If Bell truly believes that what he did is in his best financial interest, then it's hard to fault him for turning down an contract that would have left him exposed had he gotten an injury.

    That being said, it seems like he overvalued himself and Conner's success had kind proved that. Bell took a risk and right now, it looks like he miscalculated.

    Now he's in a bad spot. Other NFL teams are surely looking at this and thinking "Bell is good, but how much was Bell and how much was the system he was in".

    And now, for his gamble to pay off, he has to come in and be better than Conner. And probably not just a little better.

    And if he is better and the Steelers decide to make him the #1, he's got about a half a season to try to do well and hope he doesn't get injured.
    I have deleted three/four attempts to respond to your take, I can't figure out where to go with this. It is a unique situation. I agree with everything ya said and real curious where this goes.

    I really like Conner, but he's a not the receiver Bell is.

    I do think the Steelers can win without Bell, because of Conner.

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    Why not run both Bell and Conner? Ya know, Taylor/Hornung, Mack/Byner, Csonka/Morris, Casares/Galimore, Brown/Mitc etc.


    We all love $$$$$$$$ but sometimes ya just have to do the right thing. What Bell did was ridiculous. This I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY TEAM PAY ME.....sucked and was stupid. Sure it's a business but just how much damn $$$$$ does a guy need?

    Most of us make it just fine with just a fraction of what pro athletes make. Greed is ugly.
    I agree... most fans are socialist on sports contract issues because the owners are billionaires but the players are damn greedy, too.

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    I have deleted three/four attempts to respond to your take, I can't figure out where to go with this. It is a unique situation. I agree with everything ya said and real curious where this goes.

    I really like Conner, but he's a not the receiver Bell is.

    I do think the Steelers can win without Bell, because of Conner.
    Bell took a big ass gamble. As soon as it was clear that Conner could produce Bell like numbers, it gave the Steelers the upper hand.
    Even though they probably hoped and do hope that Bell will return. They're surely better with Bell/Conner than with just Conner. It's huge if they have both.
    Gives them two legit #1RB and gives them protection against an injury.

    Sure the Steelers could win without Conner. But that's assuming he's healthy for the rest of the season. So far, it seems like the Steelers have played this 100% right and Bell has played it 100% wrong.
    The next correct move for the Steelers would be to welcome Bell back. Bell's best move (if he's trying to preserve his career and future contracts) would probably be to just sit out. But my guess is that he wants a chance for a ring and may
    be willing to risk injury or playing poorly to get one.

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    Bell took a big ass gamble. As soon as it was clear that Conner could produce Bell like numbers, it gave the Steelers the upper hand.
    Even though they probably hoped and do hope that Bell will return. They're surely better with Bell/Conner than with just Conner. It's huge if they have both.
    Gives them two legit #1RB and gives them protection against an injury.

    Sure the Steelers could win without Conner. But that's assuming he's healthy for the rest of the season. So far, it seems like the Steelers have played this 100% right and Bell has played it 100% wrong.
    The next correct move for the Steelers would be to welcome Bell back. Bell's best move (if he's trying to preserve his career and future contracts) would probably be to just sit out. But my guess is that he wants a chance for a ring and may
    be willing to risk injury or playing poorly to get one.
    As Joe Buck and Troy Aikman said last night, Steelers have the best OL in the league. Their middle is just ridiculous, especially in the run game, and their tackles are terrific pass protectors as well.

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    I agree... most fans are socialist on sports contract issues because the owners are billionaires but the players are damn greedy, too.
    what's greedy about the players?

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    As Joe Buck and Troy Aikman said last night, Steelers have the best OL in the league. Their middle is just ridiculous, especially in the run game, and their tackles are terrific pass protectors as well.
    There's no doubt. There might be 10-12 RB that could produce these numbers. Maybe more. Bell is surely talented. But likely not more talented by the differential between him and the next guys as his desired salary implied.

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    Sponsored By The Return Of Dez

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    Like I said in April... Dez has played his final NFL snap.

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    Kansas City could lose at home tomorrow... surprise upset, Chosen Rosen time?

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    press-man coverage against Tyreek Hill

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    trap game for pats tbh, tennessee has been solid for a while now.

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    if the Falcons lose to the Browns again

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    trap game for pats tbh, tennessee has been solid for a while now.
    they tend to get up for good teams, especially at home. beat Green Bay at home a couple years ago, made Rodgers look average and their defense look horrid. They beat Philly this year in an OT thriller. They've already beaten Houston at home.

    But I fully expect NE to win today, just like the @ Jets game last year when they were down 0-14, belichick will make the necessary adjustments on defense

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    they tend to get up for good teams, especially at home. beat Green Bay at home a couple years ago, made Rodgers look average and their defense look horrid. They beat Philly this year in an OT thriller. They've already beaten Houston at home.

    But I fully expect NE to win today, just like the @ Jets game last year when they were down 0-14, belichick will make the necessary adjustments on defense
    past years are irrelevant.

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    past years are irrelevant.
    still, the pats always have that token game where they go down 14-0 or 14-3 early on the road, every year, and come back to win reasonably comfortably.

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    Raven Will Hunting


    Although I will admit... Vrabel is a young Belichick prototype and knows him very well, so if the Pats are in a dogfight or lose today, it's because Vrabel, Dion Lewis, Butler, and Ryan all know the Patriots very well. They're like the Patriots south.

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    still, the pats always have that token game where they go down 14-0 or 14-3 early on the road, every year, and come back to win reasonably comfortably.
    we're used to it, it's just the nature of the game when every year you have an atrocious defense and a nuclear offense..

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    Although I will admit... Vrabel is a young Belichick prototype and knows him very well, so if the Pats are in a dogfight or lose today, it's because Vrabel, Dion Lewis, Butler, and Ryan all know the Patriots very well. They're like the Patriots south.
    Rent free. Your obsession with New England is unhealthy.

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    Rent free. Your obsession with New England is unhealthy.
    True. I love stuffed flounder, fried haddock, clam and cod chowder, steamed lobster, and sea scallops. Then again, I also love New Orleans style seafood... so tough to decide. Just like with Brady/Brees, tough to decide.

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    Saints throwing the X after their fallen Saint, nice.


    Chiefs have 3rd and goal and the 20 yard line, still score the TD with Hill.

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