Kawhi Leonard? Forget that guy. Move on.

[Sigz]

Duncan should have been FMVP btw.....

[jermaine]

My name is Jermaine, an I approve this post!!!

[exstatic]

I’ll reserve judgement until something actually happens.

[jermaine]

I’ll reserve judgement until something actually happens.

Something has happened!!! He has quit on his team. If he was at least on the bench or practicing with the team I could understand... This don't do anything with the team an I pray he's done an is traded to the Hornets.

[BSfromTX]

Something has happened!!! He has quit on his team. If he was at least on the bench or practicing with the team I could understand... This don't do anything with the team an I pray he's done an is traded to the Hornets.

i agree. Team leaders don’t behave this way. He is coming across as very selfish and immature. Maybe he isn’t, but it’s looking that way and if he had any level respect for this team, it seems as though he would at least say something and support them

[tholdren]

Duncan should have been FMVP btw.....

Said me when kl was handed trophy, but took years for st to get off the kool aid. 4th option. Was not best player in playoffs or finals

[james evans]

ohh the butt hurt fans haha. I'm glad I'm older now and know how business works while realizing we can be mad at players leaving our favorite teams, but it's not always on the players. I'm more mad at popovich and the front office for not bringing Deadmond and Simmons back than Kawhi leaving. Because that could have started all of this . As spurs fans we should be tired of these legacy contracts. but as someone stated, when they re-upped Aldridge this summer, we should have known something was wrong. Hey, Kawhi has beef with the team and he doesn't want to play. Move on, get somethign for him. Since he's "not that good" surely the greatest coach of all time can make another Kawhi right?

[superbigtime]

I’ll reserve judgement until something actually happens.

what are you, mature or something?

[YGWHI]

Remaining what? 6 games in the season? Of couse. Move on, he won't save us this season like in the past. Just focus on playoffs.

After all, we'll have a long summer to talk about Kawhi.

[Russ]

I think you have to look at the big picture. The default position has to be to offer the Super-Max.

But a lot can (and certainly will) happen before that decision must be made.

[BillMc]

What is the most likely reason he's not on the bench at least anymore? I ask that not with a pro or anti Kawhi view. Why is he not there?

Could it be...

a) He's been told to be away so the team concentrates on who is available?

b) Sitting on a bench somehow is detrimental to his rehab (seems unlikely)

c) He's mad at the players and/or PAFO because of that team only meeting?

d) He's mad at the organization about how they've handled the rehab?

e) He uses this time to rehab?

f) He's mad at the organization about their position on something contractual?

g) He just doesn't care anymore?

h) He's been told to stay away for some other reason?

I) He's not in SA. (NY? Europe?)

J) He's mad at the team because of how they've presented the issue in the media?

K) He doesn't want to take jeers from fans?

L) He's been asked to stay away so he doesn't take jeers from fan?

M) He's dead, Jim?

N) He needs a bigger boat?

O) It's Chinatown, Jake.




I've no idea. But this development is the weirdest so far....

[YGWHI]

What is the most likely reason he's not on the bench at least anymore? I ask that not with a pro or anti Kawhi view Why is he not there?

Could it be...

a) He's been told to be away so the team concentrates on who is available?

b) Sitting on a bench somehow is detrimental to his rehab (seems unlikely)

c) He's mad at the players and/or PAFO because of that team only meeting?

d) He's mad at the organization about how they've handled the rehab?

e) He uses this time to rehab?

f) He's mad at the organization about their position on something contractual?

g) He just doesn't care anymore?

h) He's been told to stay away for some other reason?

I) He's not in SA. (NY? Europe?)

J) He's mad at the team because of how they've presented the issue in the media?

K) He doesn't want to take jeers from fans?

L) He's been asked to stay away so he doesn't take jeers from fan?

M) He's dead, Jim?

N) He needs a bigger boat?

O) It's Chinatown, Jake.




I've no idea. But this development is the weirdest so far....

It seems like my inner-player fan isn't allowed to answer this

But I find really funny that no one took the time to post that his girl was sick in previous games.

[BillMc]

But I find really funny that no one took the time to post that his girl was sick in previous games.

His daughter or girlfriend? How serious? That would be a justifiable absence certainly if it were a major illness.

[YGWHI]

His daughter or girlfriend? How serious? That would be a justifiable absence certainly if it were a major illness.

It's not a major illness.

I guess only brooklynspursfan (sorry if that's not the correct nick i'm so bad for this) talked last week about it. IIRC he's a Spurs fan living in Brooklyn.


Edit: bklynspursfan

[Proxy]

the dude drives a 97 tahoe and you expect him to be a normal person

[MultiTroll]

Move on.
From Buford and Popped.
After 2007's 'Chip please.

Pretty sure a Timmy Duncan led team gets more then one additional Championship in 10 farking years.

[baseline bum]

I think you have to look at the big picture. The default position has to be to offer the Super-Max.

But a lot can (and certainly will) happen before that decision must be made.

I offer the super max if Kawhi says he wants to stay. But I'm not offering him the super max only to trade him to LA. If he wants the money it has to be here. If he later pouts and tries to force a trade I'm sending him to someone who can trade me another team's lottery picks that they hold and not to his favored destination.

[SpursforSix]

What is the most likely reason he's not on the bench at least anymore? I ask that not with a pro or anti Kawhi view. Why is he not there?

Could it be...

a) He's been told to be away so the team concentrates on who is available?

b) Sitting on a bench somehow is detrimental to his rehab (seems unlikely)

c) He's mad at the players and/or PAFO because of that team only meeting?

d) He's mad at the organization about how they've handled the rehab?

e) He uses this time to rehab?

f) He's mad at the organization about their position on something contractual?

g) He just doesn't care anymore?

h) He's been told to stay away for some other reason?

I) He's not in SA. (NY? Europe?)

J) He's mad at the team because of how they've presented the issue in the media?

K) He doesn't want to take jeers from fans?

L) He's been asked to stay away so he doesn't take jeers from fan?

M) He's dead, Jim?

N) He needs a bigger boat?

O) It's Chinatown, Jake.




I've no idea. But this development is the weirdest so far....

Who knows.

Another possibility is that he's just so socially awkward and uncomfortable that he can't make himself be around the team.

Whatever it is, it's a mess.

[BillMc]

I offer the super max if Kawhi says he wants to stay. But I'm not offering him the super max only to trade him to LA. If he wants the money it has to be here.

While I cimpletely understand that sentiment (screw Kawhi) giving him the supermax and then trading him to LAL allows 1) more back in return 2) cripples their salary cap situation much more than a "regular" max.

So, as much as it galls us to give him the supermax before trading him, it seems to me it would be more beneficial to the Spurs to do so. Could be wrong though.

[BillMc]

Who knows.

Another possibility is that he's just so socially awkward and uncomfortable that he can't make himself be around the team.

Whatever it is, it's a mess.

True

[superbigtime]

I think he feels guilty and/or awkward. He is there during some of the games. Giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. This situation is so weird and mysterious. Best not to blame anyone.

[baseline bum]

While I cimpletely understand that sentiment (screw Kawhi) giving him the supermax and then trading him to LAL allows 1) more back in return 2) cripples their salary cap situation much more than a "regular" max.

So, as much as it galls us to give him the supermax before trading him, it seems to me it would be more beneficial to the Spurs to do so. Could be wrong though.

What does LA have to send the Spurs that's worth a ? I'm not interested in the Ball circus. Ingram looks decent but I'd rather swing for the fence with lottery picks vs taking the single to right. They won't be in the lottery if they land Kawhi so their own picks will be worth little, and they don't have anyone else's picks.

[Russ]

I offer the super max if Kawhi says he wants to stay. But I'm not offering him the super max only to trade him to LA. If he wants the money it has to be here. If he later pouts and tries to force a trade I'm sending him to someone who can trade me another team's lottery picks that they hold and not to his favored destination.

I think if Kawhi signs the Super-Max he can't be traded for two years (but I could be wrong).

If so, Kawhi signing that deal would be a two year commitment (at least in some sense) to the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

I think if Kawhi signs the Super-Max he can't be traded for two years (but I could be wrong).

If so, Kawhi signing that deal would be a two year commitment (at least in some sense) to the Spurs.

Looks like it's one year. Kawhi better not think the Spurs are going to accommodate him in 2019 with a trade to his preferred destination after one year of supermax money.

https://basketball.realgm.com/articl...eran-Contracts

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All I'm gonna say is that Tim was by far our best and most consistent player during the entire 2014 playoff run. Not to mention the unquestionable leader. Kawhi stepped up in the Finals but Tim definitely had my vote for FMVP back then.