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    who are the up and comers in the democrat field who would be legitimate candidates in 2024, assuming the seat was up for grabs? newsom was as good as guess as any imo. and his early handling of covid was actually good. like mid said, he just caved instead of leading
    not coming down on the tribal casinos. Spineless. (yes, tribal land, but Newsom has a loophole).

    The gaming association cited a standard section of the state gaming compact with different tribes that states “the tribe shall not conduct Class III gaming in a manner that endangers the public health, safety, or welfare,” the gaming association wrote. “We believe you have the authority to order ALL casino operations, including tribal casinos, to cease operations in the affected counties.”
    https://www.yogonet.com/internationa...tribal-casinos

    ...the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians, the California Teachers Association and former San Diego Padres owner Jennifer Moores were the biggest donors to the inauguration, each contributing $200,000.

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    Yep. You remember I was crowning him a future president. Not anymore. And now seeing CA's excess deaths, I won't trust any "death decline" over the following weeks. He did reenact measures, but it was a bit too late to really crush it. Better late than never, but he should never caved to business (i.e. donors).
    I don't see the point of any lockdown as long as Trump is president. It's not like California can shut down entry into the state from other states, so no matter what they do the is going to creep back the second the lockdown is lifted, same as it's spreading south to north in the eastern half of the nation. As long as Trump is president lockdowns are worthless. All they'll do is pause . Now if Biden was president I'd be all for a pretty strict national lockdown for ~8 weeks to stomp the infection to low levels since I think Biden would actually have a strategy for keeping R_0 < 1 after lifting the lockdown through aggressive testing and contact tracing. Trump's lockdown was just the worst cluster : killing off economic activity with an insufficent safety net and not having any kind of post-lockdown plan.

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    ^^^ never shows his cards.

    tholdren reasons by pure fiat, judging from his contributions here.
    If you dont "get" this then you have no understanding of statistics, or math. RandomGuy and midnightpulp are trying to be smart by using charts while disregarding mathematical principles.

    Even if you don't understand math random guy and midnightpulp literally said you don't need good data to make informed decisions. /thread

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    I don't see the point of any lockdown as long as Trump is president. It's not like California can shut down entry into the state from other states, so no matter what they do the is going to creep back the second the lockdown is lifted, same as it's spreading south to north in the eastern half of the nation. As long as Trump is president lockdowns are worthless. All they'll do is pause . Now if Biden was president I'd be all for a pretty strict national lockdown for ~8 weeks to stomp the infection to low levels since I think Biden would actually have a strategy for keeping R_0 < 1 after lifting the lockdown through aggressive testing and contact tracing. Trump's lockdown was just the worst cluster : killing off economic activity with an insufficent safety net and not having any kind of post-lockdown plan.
    lol you dont understand how RO works.lolol your post

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    If you dont "get" this then you have no understanding of statistics, or math. RandomGuy and midnightpulp are trying to be smart by using charts while disregarding mathematical principles.

    Even if you don't understand math random guy and midnightpulp literally said you don't need good data to make informed decisions. /thread
    Strawmanning again. I said you don't need SPOTLESS data to make informed decisions. Your request is "perfect" data that knows ALL variables from the size of the victims shoes. We'll never have that.

    What mathematical principles are we disregarding? RandomGuy's profession deals with data.

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    lol you dont understand how RO works.lolol your post
    It's not RO dumbass

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    Strawmanning again. I said you don't need SPOTLESS data to make informed decisions. Your request is "perfect" data that knows ALL variables from the size of the victims shoes. We'll never have that.

    What mathematical principles are we disregarding? RandomGuy's profession deals with data.
    Bwahahahhahhahahahaahhahahahajahahaahahhahahahahah aahjahahahahaha

    You are admitting you are using faulty data.

    Bwahahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahah

    RandomGuy doesn't know anything about math. Period. He's tried to run excel formulas based on raw data that have been ChumpDumper wrong. Every time. Hes embarrassing. Just look at how he has tried to utilize simple math, like you do, incorrectly


    It's hilarious that you are arguing this.

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    I don't see the point of any lockdown as long as Trump is president. It's not like California can shut down entry into the state from other states, so no matter what they do the is going to creep back the second the lockdown is lifted, same as it's spreading south to north in the eastern half of the nation. As long as Trump is president lockdowns are worthless. All they'll do is pause . Now if Biden was president I'd be all for a pretty strict national lockdown for ~8 weeks to stomp the infection to low levels since I think Biden would actually have a strategy for keeping R_0 < 1 after lifting the lockdown through aggressive testing and contact tracing. Trump's lockdown was just the worst cluster : killing off economic activity with an insufficent safety net and not having any kind of post-lockdown plan.
    At this point, the stupid is out of the bag, and isn't going back in.

    Trump, for selfish reasons, minimized the danger for months, and the right win propaganda machine took that and ran with it, convincing morons like Spurtacular, Ducks, and fldren that this is some sort of liberal plot. Even if we instantly had a cogent, science-based plan in place right now, the morons would be fighting it, and the really red states would be in half-open rebellion.

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    At this point, the stupid is out of the bag, and isn't going back in.

    Trump, for selfish reasons, minimized the danger for months, and the right win propaganda machine took that and ran with it, convincing morons like Spurtacular, Ducks, and fldren that this is some sort of liberal plot. Even if we instantly had a cogent, science-based plan in place right now, the morons would be fighting it, and the really red states would be in half-open rebellion.
    The sad part is you think you are good at math. Yet you can't identify flaws in the covid math.

    Ps masks don't work no science behind it. PER THE DUTCH

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKCN24U2UJ



    Lolololol
    They also said lockdowns aren't scientific

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    The sad part is you think you are good at math. Yet you can't identify flaws in the covid math.

    Ps masks don't work no science behind it. PER THE DUTCH

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKCN24U2UJ

    Lolololol
    They also said lockdowns aren't scientific
    wrong

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    RIVM chief Jaap van Dissel said that the organization was aware of studies that show masks help slow the spread of disease but it was not convinced they will help during the current coronavirus outbreak in the Netherlands.

    He argued wearing masks incorrectly, together with worse adherence to social distancing rules, could increase the risk of transmitting the disease.

    “So we think that if you’re going to use masks (in a public setting) ... then you must give good training for it,” he said.

    Mask are currently required only on public transportation in the Netherlands and in airports.

    The decision followed a meeting of health and government officials after new coronavirus cases in the country rose to 1,329 in the past week, an increase of more than a third.

    Dutch cases have risen steadily since July 1, when the government announced an easing of lockdown measures to include restaurants and public gatherings if people maintain a 1.5 meter (five foot) physical distance.

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    Why post a link that directly contradicts what you're saying and paints you as a liar? smh

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    I'm gonna take RG and BB math over anyone else's in this forum except my own lol

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    I'm gonna take RG and BB math over anyone else's in this forum except my own lol
    Fire can't melt steel.

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    Fire can't melt steel.
    They were wrong about 911 but I give them a pass

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    RIVM chief Jaap van Dissel said that the organization was aware of studies that show masks help slow the spread of disease but it was not convinced they will help during the current coronavirus outbreak in the Netherlands.

    He argued wearing masks incorrectly, together with worse adherence to social distancing rules, could increase the risk of transmitting the disease.

    “So we think that if you’re going to use masks (in a public setting) ... then you must give good training for it,” he said.

    Mask are currently required only on public transportation in the Netherlands and in airports.

    The decision followed a meeting of health and government officials after new coronavirus cases in the country rose to 1,329 in the past week, an increase of more than a third.

    Dutch cases have risen steadily since July 1, when the government announced an easing of lockdown measures to include restaurants and public gatherings if people maintain a 1.5 meter (five foot) physical distance.
    He's saying masks, as used in the US, are a placebo. Most people are putting thin cloth over their faces, I've even seen people with neoprene bike masks with holes in the nose and mouth areas, and people just putting a t-shirt over their faces.

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    I'm gonna take RG and BB math over anyone else's in this forum except my own lol
    RG is Jethro 2.0. Anyone proficient at math will know in an instant RG is a fraud.

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    now people are trying to interpret tholdren like Fox News tries to interpret Trump.

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    now people are trying to interpret tholdren like Fox News tries to interpret Trump.
    And you're The View.

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    came across this video re: HHS data handling, im sure some people will find it interesting...

    and it will trigger the out tholdren and spurt too so win-win


    ps: speaking of spotty data, isnt it odd tholdren has never come in here bringing "math" to polls, unemployment figures, and most importantly, the accounting that forms the basis of all economic policy?? odd to limit such an important discovery to such a narrow non-issue as a harmless flu strain. I actually do agree there is a load of noise in the data and most data in general because it has to be registered, but I also understand that the whole point of data analysis is too sift through that noise

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    And you're The View.
    women trigger you

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    He's saying masks, as used in the US, are a placebo. Most people are putting thin cloth over their faces, I've even seen people with neoprene bike masks with holes in the nose and mouth areas, and people just putting a t-shirt over their faces.
    he's not saying that at all

    he's saying that wearing masks by itself doesnt suddenly mean you can ignore social distancing guidelines and pretend everything's going to be fine... and particularly so when masks are worn incorrectly

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    He's saying masks, as used in the US, are a placebo. Most people are putting thin cloth over their faces, I've even seen people with neoprene bike masks with holes in the nose and mouth areas, and people just putting a t-shirt over their faces.
    He's certainly not saying masks don't work. They're also using masks right now in select areas. Furthermore, they've been in lockdown too (you can only ease lockdowns if you been in lockdown).

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    RG is Jethro 2.0. Anyone proficient at math will know in an instant RG is a fraud.
    I have a bach. in math/mast. in comp science ....RG is not a fraud.

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    came across this video re: HHS data handling, im sure some people will find it interesting...

    and it will trigger the out tholdren and spurt too so win-win


    ps: speaking of spotty data, isnt it odd tholdren has never come in here bringing "math" to polls, unemployment figures, and most importantly, the accounting that forms the basis of all economic policy?? odd to limit such an important discovery to such a narrow non-issue as a harmless flu strain. I actually do agree there is a load of noise in the data and most data in general because it has to be registered, but I also understand that the whole point of data analysis is too sift through that noise
    Who could have ever seen this coming with Trump's birds put in charge of the case data.

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