jags also looking to dump fournette
cant imagine they'll find a taker for anything more than a third day pick
they should take what they can get now.
appreciate the fact that you had cheap production for a few years from what was a third round pick and still get a draft pick back. they should be one of the tank for trevor candidates. theres little benefit to paying him franchise tag money this year for a middling team only to get a 2022 comp pick. just get the draft pick now and clear up cap space which you can roll over
yannick is a very good player but he's NOT the caliber of guy who should be setting the market (imo kinda like cooper on the WR spectrum)
jags also looking to dump fournette
cant imagine they'll find a taker for anything more than a third day pick
im becoming a believer of the denzel mims hype... i think he's a steal if he falls to the second route. he reminds me a lot of josh gordon, and not just because they both went to baylor.
he's a great athlete when it come to height/weight/speed but he's not in the julio/calvin category of freak in that they are also absurdly sharp route runners in addition to their size. but he's a long strider who still manages to separate, use his frame to create more space, and has uncanny ball skills. it's like if Kenny Golladay was much faster. baylor didnt run a pro style offense so watching most of his games, he's basically just running a vertical route tree, but even then he shows great subtlety to his game, varies his releases, attacks corners' leverages, etc.
coaches were apparently impressed with him at the senior bowl where supposedly in drills he was shredding everybody running all kinds of routes which baylor didnt ask him to run. i cant really speak to that stuff, but even based on what i've seen at baylor, he looks more refined (though less physically imposing) than DK Metcalf did last year
this class is absurdly deep... if i had to put guys in tiers
tier 1 - lamb/jeudy
tier 2 - ruggs/mims/jefferson/reagor
tier 3 - aiyuk/pittman/higgins
tier 4 - shenault/edwards/hamler/van jefferson
Last edited by spurraider21; 04-20-2020 at 08:42 PM.
no way simmons gets past the jags if hes even available. our lb core and safeties are very weak. if hes not available we take jeudy/lamb. dede is a slot wr and either wr would be great opposite of chark. we have young OTs who are developing atm. also we are definitely picking a CB in the 1st round. no one worth the 7th pick but at 20 should be a CB.
and yannick what a crybaby. package him and 4net for anything at this point. maybe the bucs will give us the 14th pick for both
Idk I think Metcalf is a sure fire HOFer if he stays healthy. Especially considering who his QB is. Metcalf was running near perfect routes and making insane catches by playoff time, and he was a god in the Eagles playoff game.
I guess the saving grace about Fournette is that he's still cheap for another year or two.. but he hasn't stayed healthy since his rookie season
Just imagine where the Jags would be today if they had drafted Mahomes instead of making the cardinal sin everyone already knew about by drafting a HB #4 overall.
Mahomes + that 2017 sacksonville defense would have been like playing madden on easy mode
I agree, but I don't think there's anyone stopping Carolina in that regard. Carolina has by far the worst roster in the league talent-wise and it isn't even close. They also just overhauled their coaching staff. And, they play in a division with Brady, Brees and Julio Jones.
Then again, if Prescott holds out like Leveon Bell, the Cowboys could be in the mix if they're forced to start Cooper Rush and then go through a 2015 like parade of retreads that all suck
i think CJ Henderson is also a legitimate option for the Jags as well. WR is a possibility, but i cant imagine thats the priority. they've gotta replace Cam Robinson... who do they have in-house to replace him?
What's your metric that backs up "near perfect routes"?
There's no metric for that, obviously it's subjective. But early on in the season it looked like he was confusing Wilson on things like comeback vs curl routes etc, later on it looked like he ran routes that made sense vs the coverage and was almost always open. Wilson missed him a few times and he had a couple drops midseason otherwise his stats would have been pretty gaudy.
That's not subjective. There are metrics that are widely accepted to grade out a WR's route running ability.
But you confirmed my su ion. Your comment was pretty much based on whatever plays you happened to see.
i didnt see anything from metcalf that made me think he's a remarkable route runner. but he did show great tracking skills and ball skills, along with a QB who throws a great deep ball and can buy time for downfield separation. we knew metcalf had those traits coming in, and he was able to shine because he got drafted to a team that made use of those limited (albeit useful) skills.
a lot of what happens with young WR's is the situation they land in. metcalf would have looked like with the Jets, for example. AJ Brown didnt look very good until Mariota was replaced. even steve smith had a career revival when he left the panthers
damn, you got me by seconds.
i know you're on top of the spurs forum but since when do you break anything in the NFL Forum
If they can get draft picks for a retired player I’m good with it. Patriots are in rebuilding mode either way.
They might as well trade Edelman to Tampa with Gronk.
My Bucs are staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked
its true that they should commit to the rebuild... but does come off as a cucking tbh
you called it
If they only get a draft pick for him and he plays productively then it’s a cucking to some extent. If he looks as broken down and busted as he did in 2018 then I’m not really worried about it.
Im also still skeptical because he’s clearly skimmed down a lot since retiring. Doesn’t look like an NFL ready tight end right now.
Gronk/Edelman for Howard/2nd tbh
rapsheet said gronk has already been putting on weight in the anticipation of a comeback. he didn't look like himself in 2018, but he's still not that old. could be a marshawn lynch situation where the year out of football actually did him some good. lynch looked pretty done in seattle but then played well for the raiders
throw in a coach swap for the lulz
tampa has a good history of trading for head coaches
I don't get that move if it happened. I get that there might be some chemistry between Brady and Gronk but by most accounts, Howard is an incredible athlete and very good pass blocker. I'm not sure that Gronk adds anything.
All this on top of what you said about the shape he's in right now.
there's a trust factor with Brady that can't be understated, and arians hasnt been shy about not liking Howard.
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