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    IRS estimates selfish cheats and wealthy free lunchers hide $1 trillion annually


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-irs-estimates
    Of course they do. Every bureaucracy wants more funding, more employees and more power. Making unsubstantiated claims of massive cheating justify more of everything.

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    ^^^ Blindfold securely tied, hands waving

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    ^You've gone off the deep end.

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    someone's got a grudge

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    someone's got a grudge
    Probably your bathroom scales.

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    someone's got a grudge
    He cannot stop himself.

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    He cannot stop himself.

    -Reporting live from Spurstalk, I'm Extremely Fat-Man
    Let's try harder to keep this professional.

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    someone's got a grudge
    See.

    The fat is extra salty this weekend and regrets posting pictures of his fat hands.

    What an idiot!

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    Probably your bathroom scales.
    Avoiding all topical handles, only talking about me, as an honest broker does.

    I'm just a pony on your carousel of grudges.

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    I could say the same of you. If they are really missing ONE TRILLION a year of TAXES when the total GDP of the entire US economy is only TWENTY TWO TRILLION then they need to start by firing everyone and starting over.

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    Lower tax rate != lower taxes
    distinction without a difference, the equities are screwed.

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    distinction without a difference, the equities are screwed.
    There's a huge difference. Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean there's no difference. Words matter.

    Person A pays 20% income tax for a total of 18K
    Person B pays 5% income tax for a total of 180K

    That's a difference factor of 10. If you think your 18K is doing the same amount of support as the 180K, you should be able to live just as well as them.

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    There's a huge difference. Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean there's no difference. Words matter.

    Person A pays 20% income tax for a total of 18K
    Person B pays 5% income tax for a total of 180K

    That's a difference factor of 10. If you think your 18K is doing the same amount of support as the 180K, you should be able to live just as well as them.
    You will never change him no matter how you try. He hates and is angrily jealous of success.

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    There's a huge difference. Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean there's no difference. Words matter.

    Person A pays 20% income tax for a total of 18K
    Person B pays 5% income tax for a total of 180K

    That's a difference factor of 10. If you think your 18K is doing the same amount of support as the 180K, you should be able to live just as well as them.
    Person A has $72k left after taxes.

    Person B has $3.42M left after taxes.

    There is a reason taxes were designed to be progressive.

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    Person A has $72k left after taxes.

    Person B has $3.42M left after taxes.

    There is a reason taxes were designed to be progressive.
    I didn't suggest either should pay more or less, but that lower tax rate and lower taxes are not the same. Maybe both should end up with 72K left so that no one feels it useful to push forward any more once they reach that 72K remaining.

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    Maybe both should end up with 72K left so that no one feels it useful to push forward any more once they reach that 72K remaining.
    DMClown

    You’re not a serious person.

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    DMClown

    You’re not a serious person.
    I seem to be the only reason you post these days.

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    DMClown

    You’re not a serious person.

    You got under his skin.

    He is down to his lame schtick of saying everyone is out to get him.

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    I could say the same of you. If they are really missing ONE TRILLION a year of TAXES when the total GDP of the entire US economy is only TWENTY TWO TRILLION then they need to start by firing everyone and starting over.
    Or hire more IRS agents to go after the cheats. Seems like a pretty big win as far as cost/benefit goes, amaright?

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    There's a huge difference. Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean there's no difference. Words matter.

    Person A pays 20% income tax for a total of 18K
    Person B pays 5% income tax for a total of 180K

    That's a difference factor of 10. If you think your 18K is doing the same amount of support as the 180K, you should be able to live just as well as them.
    Yeah, but what does the speed limit sign say is the right amount of taxes?

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    You will never change him no matter how you try. He hates and is angrily jealous of success.
    Not jealousy. No matter how many times you claim it is, that will not make it true.

    So, once again, I will will explain it to you, in the hope you may understand.

    It is based on fairness, and the simple economic concept of marginal income over the poverty level.

    If the bare minimum for food, shelter, clothes, i.e. life sustaining is 20K taking even one dollar away means something that sustains life has to give. That is a great harm.

    Someone making, say 200K could lose 90% of that before that level of harm. Each dollar of marginal income above that poverty line they lose only requires them to give up quality of food/shelter, etc or something not required to sustain life. The harm is less.

    This is the fairness that our progressive income tax system is based on. It is fairness, not jealousy.

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    Not jealousy. No matter how many times you claim it is, that will not make it true.

    So, once again, I will will explain it to you, in the hope you may understand.

    It is based on fairness, and the simple economic concept of marginal income over the poverty level.

    If the bare minimum for food, shelter, clothes, i.e. life sustaining is 20K taking even one dollar away means something that sustains life has to give. That is a great harm.

    Someone making, say 200K could lose 90% of that before that level of harm. Each dollar of marginal income above that poverty line they lose only requires them to give up quality of food/shelter, etc or something not required to sustain life. The harm is less.

    This is the fairness that our progressive income tax system is based on. It is fairness, not jealousy.
    Its already progressive. The top 5% pay 58% of federal taxes and the bottom 50% pay zero. I get it that you want more free from the federal government by taxing people higher that make more than you.

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