The FO drafts best player available, and have done a pretty damn good job. People get enraged with them when they don't draft the player THEY want, or don't reach for a position of need. Spurs don't do that, so perhaps peeps need to stop projecting their wishes onto PATFO.
DJ
White
Lonnie
Luka
Keldon
Those are all solid post-lottery first round picks.
agree bout gasol and lma but imo better is having gasol (1year) + prospective rookiePF/C than DDR and mid 2nd round. Plus we get rid of DDR which is the key to the development of our young guys (and still dont know what about his player option). Lets be realistic its HIGH TIME to rebuild. Draft youngies and give them as much minutes as we can (in nba not fking gleague). Maybe in 1-2 seasons some of them become a star.
The NBA is "unlikely" to hold the draft lottery as scheduled on May 19, according to Anthony Slater of The Athletic.
"May is still considered a runway of sorts in the NBA, the remaining information-gathering cushion before definitive decisions will have to be made the following month," Slater writes. Teams would like multiple weeks between the lottery and the actual draft, giving them sufficient time to evaluate players and develop strategies -- made more difficult since teams are unlikely to see players in person.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Apr 29, 2020, 9:52 AM ET
Draft lottery is just for positioning, maybe delay draft itself?
No need. The lottery date is pretty arbitrary, and designed to fall in the mid to late playoffs for effect. They could hold the draft at the normal late June date, and literally have the lottery the day before. Most teams have a draft board, and just select BPA. They wouldn't need time between lottery and draft if they've done their scouting and interviews.
Expirings can't be traded after the trade deadline. You can't trade an expiring contract on draft night.
Wait thats dumb as to delay the lottery. Whyyyy
I’m assuming they’d delay the lottery because they want all teams to resume playing to make a playoff push if they are close, maybe the spurs can lose a couple games to get the 10th pick lol
He had a few months before Team USA camp and on the heels of the way he finished the season and his camp, his confidence should have been sky high, setting up to be a springboard into the World Cup and the start of the regular season. Instead, he struggled at both.
There were rumors he was battling plantar fasciitis early on, so maybe that contributed, but given all that and his age, the stagnation was disappointing and concerning.
Pop deserves ample criticism for a myriad of reasons, but at the same time none of Murray/White/Walker exactly grabbed the bull by the horns and forced their hand. Johnson showed more of that in limited daylight before the stoppage than they had all season.
Yup I've seen more from Keldon to inspire confidence then all the others combined. Keldon Johnson was suppose to be a lottery pick from everything I read during the draft last year the fact that he went 29th still surprises me. I think a lot of people make excuse for Lonnie, Derrick and Dejounte. I think that of them Derrick is the best player but he's too under confident. Lonnie and Dejounte have to prove something before I say that they are building pieces. The fact that Dejounte is going into his 4th season and still can't finish at the rim is concerning.
Ah yes. Truly wonderful foundation to build on. If we can make excellent picks like this over the next 4 drafts we’ll definitely be contenders.
There was better talent available at each pick. And it was obvious at the time (no need for Monday morning QBing). I watch more NCAA than NBA. I wanted these guys at the time the picks were made. Still probably wouldn’t be contenders but we’d be a lot better off. Brogdon on the 2016-2017 season team would’ve been fun. That one bugs me the most. It was such an obvious choice at the time.
2016- Malcolm Brogdon
2017- Josh Hart
2018- Wagner or Okogie
2019- Clarke instead of Luka
You say these are obvious but yet I would say none are far and away better. I actually like Murray better then Brogdon, White and Hart is a tossup to me. I would like Wagner over Walker but I am not high on walker and wagner fits a position of need. Im excited about luka and KJ. 1 year in on both of these to me is to early to tell. they could both be bust or could turn into something.
I want Killian but we’d need a top 5 pick for that
Damn Corona makes me do what I didn’t do for 5 years. Post at ST. but it’s boring as with no basketball and soccer and so I had to waste some time. This are my thoughts on some players of this draft and I write them for myself to somehow get an idea what the Spurs could or should do. Like it or not. I’m out for the next 5 years anyway.
Obi Toppin. He might be available at 11, because he will slip. he is likely the most overrated player in this draft. The lack of elite talent makes the experts hype a decent offensive player as if he was set to become a sure fire star. First off, A10 is a joke. 66 games in two seasons and just five or six vs. somehow compe ive teams. Did Toppin dominate in any of those games? (he didn’t). yes, he can drop 30 on Duquesne or the George Washington Colonials, he would also drop 30 on the Washington Generals. I don’t claim he didn’t deserve to be picked in the 1st round. He will become a somewhat useful rotation player who delivers some scoring. But no way he should be picked top 5. Even not lottery. You say Amare? Jezz. He reminds me more about a slower Michael Beasley and you wouldn’t pick Beasley at #2, would you. You all think he is tough, because he somehow looks tough. Guess what, the guy is soft. You should wonder why his rebounding numbers are fairly pedestrian despite him usually being the only big man of his teams. Well, watch him. he doesn’t go up for contested rebounds. He even ducks when a player goes up. Bad timing, bad positioning and lukewarm effort on defense. The guy is obviously afraid of contact, this also explains his low FT number. (considering his role and game). Slow, soft and a bad defender. Pass.
Haliburton. Will be available as well. Because he is overrated as well. Not as much as Toppin, but quite a lot. Great college player, but so was Evan Turner and Turner was stronger and a better athlete overall. Haliburton could become a nice glue guy for a good team, say C’s take him at 17 or the Bucks at 19. He is a like a great limo driver, makes you feel comfortable and will take the right road. But him as the star of your team? No way. He never does anything outside his comfort zone. He doesn’t take the team on his back to get a win. Guys sure love to play with him, because he is their best friend, delivers nice looks and never pushes them. That’s why Iowa State was so bad this year. Look at the close games. Look at what he did, when they had the chance to win a game. Ask how his usage percentage in those games can drop to below 15%, when he is in the driver’s seat and the team desperately needed some points to win the game. Ask why the guy has by far the lowest number of calls on the whole big board. Haliburton can’t buy a FT to save his live, even less to win a game. Put him on the court with four better players and he will do fine. Bad news, the Spurs currently don’t have those four guys. Not even two. Pass.
Cole Anthony. Most mocks show him in Spurs reach, but I can’ believe this. He will be picked at 8 the latest. If I was the Wolves, I give him a long look at 3. (if they pick 3rd). If you look for a guy, who is star material, you take him. Serious risk that he will bust, but a team that lacks star power, has to take this risk. in terms of talent, at ude and confidence – for good or for bad -, you won’t find a player in this draft, who brings more to the table. This team needs some Kyrie, Russ, CP3 at ude, even if it might backfire. But maybe all the traditionally bad drafting teams ahead of the Spurs pass on him and burn their picks on LaMelo, Toppin, Okoro, Avdija, Haliburton and he falls to #11. He had a difficult year and some of his struggles are his own fault. But compare what he tried in close games to what Haliburton did. Spurs need guys with cojones. Currently they only have three of that kind and they are by far not the best players on the team. (Patty, maybe Keldon and – laugh as much as you want- Bryn)
Onyeka Okongwu. The only other guy with high star potential who might be available at 11. (although I think he will be picked top 5). his ceiling is pretty high, because the worst you get will be a very good defensive player, the type Ibaka was, when he was younger. (if he ever was young). And if he develops his offensive game, he will be an all star.
Spurs won’t trade up. This never happens. But if they did, it should be for either Anthony or Okongwu. If they win a top 4 pick, they should still think about using the pick on one of them.
(or Edwards, or Wiseman. No LaMelo)
If the Spurs stay at 11 (and Anthony and Okongwu are gone), they should either pick Patrick Williams or Theo Maledon. They offer the most upside of all players likely available at 11. If they don’t believe in the chance that those guys can become stars, they should trade down. Plenty of decent role players left and there is a good chance a team like Boston will offer 17 and 26 for 11.
Maledon. No team will have this kind of intel report the Spurs have on him. If it says what I think it will they pick him. Mocks talk about a rather disappointing season he had. Did he? He showed what most 18 years old players show, when they are thrown into the cold water of the euroleague. Scouts now think they need to deliver like Luka, if they were legit NBA material. In fact Maledon showed some nice things, IMO enough to still think he could become a special player. The way he moves and handles the ball at full speed is great and his mechanics look solid, his shooting will develop. Hayes is projected top 10, that’s ok, he is good and he improved a lot over the season, has comparable potential. But between the two I would take Maledon. Good news, that the mocks mixed the positions of the two. Bad news if the GMs don’t.
Williams. One of the few some people here got almost right. Except those who cry that a #11 pick was to high for him, because most mocks listed him in the 20s. guess what, they are wrong. It will take the #11 pick to get him and I wouldn’t even be surprised, if he is already gone. Bulls might pick him at 7. Yes, that’s a reach and a high risk. Let’s see what their new GM does. GMs all search desperately for the kind of player he might become.
Vernon Carey. “experts” hate Centers these days. I can see why, but this doesn’t justify how low they rank him. Not in a draft with a dry big men pool. He will be a lottery pick and right so. His skill level is Kentucky DMC. one more year away from his dad’s diet and he will be down to 250lbs and a very skilled big man who moves faster than you ever expected. Might transform his body like Julius Randle did. He is quite not my favorite pick at 11, but if the Spurs take him at 11, I’m ok.
Saddiq Bey. I really like him. Like that type of player in general. But he is not the one to really help the Spurs. Just the fact that he would fill a need isn’t enough to use #11 on him. If the Spurs did trade down and he is still there, great. If not, look at the other prospects in the same tier. And there are quite some.
Vassell. See above. Yes, I would love to get Danny Green back. But not for a #11 pick. Vassell will be a DG, not more. Great value for a contender. Not so much for the Spurs at this point.
Nesmith. Trade down and pick him in the 20s. great shooter in a specialist role, but not much else at NBA level. Will just be to slow on defense and is to small to play a combo forward role.
Tyler Bey. That’s IMO the most interesting case. By far the most underrated player in most mocks. Best defender in this draft. Can guard 1-4. This years Brandon Clarke. Why does he not get more hype? Well, they don’t look at him. First off, he isn’t listed accurate. No way he is just 6’7’’. If there was a combine, he would be the one who opens some eyes. Oh, he is in fact 6’9’’ and has a 7’2+’’ wingspan. Who would have guessed. Look at him and you know. (btw. watch the Colorado vs. Dayton game. Lot’s of 1on1 situations with Toppin. They are exactly the same hight). He is long and he is a great athlete, jumps and runs with the best of them. They say he is old (right) and he didn’t improve this season. That’s only right if you don’t check the numbers twice. Significant stronger schedule and lower pace of Colorado. If he played at the 2019 Gonzaga team, he would deliver exactly the numbers of Clarke. better guard play and some more touches and we talk about a late lottery pick. His shooting is not bad, his passing is better than credited, plays with a high IQ and with a lot’s of heart. Unselfish, coachable, hard worker. Not a #11 pick, but I take him over Saddiq Bey and Vassell.
So, but what if the mocks are not as far off as I belive and players are in fact available where they are projected?
Best case: Anthony Cole falls to #11 and Spurs pick him an 2nd best case: Spurs trade down with Celtics and pick Maledon at 17 and Tyler Bey at 26.
^ cole anthony sucks. Look at his stats. Imo even murray is better than him. The only pg worth drafting is haliburton.
Like the idea of moving down via trading with celtics. Overall this draft is weak but that move increases our chances to get the right guy. Especially that we could get two of bey/vernon/williams/jalen smith/neismith. That would be huge.
Every team has got to have a different board, right?
This draft is crazy random.
The talent pool may not be star heavy, but i think it will yield a lot of quality players.
At what pick would Metu get drafted ?
I think late 1st, in 25th to 30th range. In his last year he averaged 15.7pts, 7.4 rbs, and 1.7 blocks which got him a overall score of 89 on Draft Net.
Williams is still my pick at 11. That upside is huge, he's 18 and raw but the potential is the. Only concern i have with him is that he's to stiff on the defensive end and whether that'll impact his ability to be a 3.
as a 2nd round pick,
I have Tyler Bey with his defensive potential
i'm also looking at Paul reed, i think he could be a sleeper in this draft.
I like him to and if they can see him being a SF then I would not mind this pick at all. His defense is pretty good just need to see his draft numbers height, length, jump, etc. one thing I like when watching him is that he is a good passer and he plays the game the right way on offense and defense.Code:r
Tyler Bey will never last to the second round. Tankathon has him at #14 on their big board. They have Paul Reed at #15.
Lol!!!
Nobody talks about Josh green, i really like him. Good defender, offense is in progress, good athlet with some ball handling qualities... Maybe more an SG than a SF but a good prospect.
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