No. I said nothing of the sort.
an how does an outcome cause something in this case? Show me your flowchart.
How did you get this stupid, derp?
Having discourse, or a 1-up contest, with Chump is pointless. The dude is a f'n loser!
No. I said nothing of the sort.
an how does an outcome cause something in this case? Show me your flowchart.
How did you get this stupid, derp?
still posting about me.
You trained Derpcuckular very well to fetch, roll over and play dead ChumpDumper.
Nice.
CA COVID-19 mortality by occupation:
You're blathering. You said heard immunity is achieved when the disease no longer spreads.
This means eradication whenever you have a communicative disease.
But if you have another means of it not spreading, then list it.
Yes.
No.This means eradication whenever you have a communicative disease.
You're too stupid to look up simple definitions yourself, derp.
Wallow in your ignorance.
Cry about your L.
I see the slap fight is in full swing again.
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When a death occurs shortly following vaccination, it is important to assess whether it was related to vaccination. In 2009–2010, a close temporal association between receipt of the pandemic influenza A(H1N1) vaccine (pH1N1) and 107 deaths (among 15 million doses of vaccine distributed in Japan) resulted in concern about a possible causal relationship, despite a lack of compelling epidemiologic or clinical evidence [1, 2]. Deaths following vaccination have had a negative impact on vaccination programs [3, 4], particularly in low- and middle-income countries implementing large-scale infant vaccination programs [5], even when investigations do not find evidence of a causal relationship.
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“Do I think people are misclassifying? No,” Jensen said. He said his concerns centered on what he deemed “less precise standards” for certifying deaths promulgated by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and how deaths classified as COVID-19 without corroborating positive test results could lead to an over-counting.
The CDC guidance says that officials should report deaths in which the patient tested positive for COVID-19 — or, if a test isn’t available, “if the cir stances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” It further indicates that if a “definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the cir stances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”
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So herein lies the double standard. Dying after vaccine administer needs to be vetted, but dying after COVID diagnosis can be considered dying from COVID, by hospitals seeking the extra cash. Both should require intense scrutiny. If we weren't using COVID as a political tool (like if we lived in WandaVision world), the counts would only be an indicator of cleared cases and less of an indicator of severity while the vaccine results should be highly magnified lest we cause unnecessary risk to patients.
Deaths of people who were vaccinated should be counted as a follow up action item but should be cleared if the death is unrelated to the vaccine. Same is true for COVID.
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You can stop telling other people that are “scared” of the virus.
probability says I just get a little sick and again probably come out fine.
But I would rather not get it, and worse than that, I don’t want to spread it to the older people I know.
if you know you have problems with vaccines then I totally get it, I don’t have a problem with the vaccination and I understand what it is made up of and I understand the hysteria that is unfounded about vaccinations. many people just don’t get the immune system, this is what I have come to understand.
You have total control over who you spread a virus to. Don't visit the elderly if you care that much, because regardless of your hand wringing here, you still have a small chance of having the virus and spreading to them. Stop acting like others should self regulate so you don't have to.
also note people in rural areas and some poor densely populated areas have not and are not being counted. A vaccine is a very acute event and when things happen after an acute event it is more likely to be blamed than some thing that occurs over a longer time span that you don’t even get into the hospital or medical facility for.
What's your point?
Yes you do have control but not total control. you still visit your grandad because you are careful about who you see and where are you go. It also matters to the elderly to have visitors that they have had a Long relationship with. The vaccination also has risks of still being able to spread it so you were saying never see them again.
that’s like shutting down all the businesses we know can still stay open due to having mask rules distance rules etc.
this is again a misunderstanding of probability.
we know much more about how this virus is spread now and we won’t know even more in the future so make adjustments.
your implication in the last sentence in which you left this out, would you like to add it?
You can't control who you visit?
It's in your control.It also matters to the elderly to have visitors that they have had a Long relationship with. The vaccination also has risks and still being able to spread it so you were saying never see them again.
Still in your control. You're playing an odds game and pretending you don't want to. The bottom line is that you make the decision that the odds are worth it, but don't want anyone else making that decision.that’s like shutting down all the businesses we know can still stay open due to having mask rules distance rules etc.
What point were you making? Can you summarize in a couple sentences?
I was saying use consistent standards. You're saying what exactly?
You imply overcounting and not undercounting (like in rural red Western states)
And you realize this.
Its within your control not to get into a car.
Of course Im playing an odds game, thats what I stated.
Odds are I dont give it to my grandad because im careful AND I have not given it to him yet for an entire year when the virus was present. I see him quite a bit. Hes good. It is a low risk worth taking because of his age and well being mentally. Many people are playing this game and winning. But the press has made it clear the red teams refusal to play by sound rules and what it costs.
I implied neither but you're using bad science to assume inaccuracy in column A is ok because of an unknown accuracy in column B.
So how is that not in your control?
Nothing is entirely within my control as far as living and dying.
Implications can be made by obvious omissions.
Which is exactly what you did and what I pointed out about rural western states that got hit hard.
I told you what is in your control. I didn't say "everything".
The hypocrisy is astounding.
The arbiter of the middle ground...
Everybody behave, the big boy has entered the room!
My summary from the two excerpts speaks for itself. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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