I hope this messes up their heads. What a boneheaded way to lose
I hope this messes up their heads. What a boneheaded way to lose
how he going to get his due when he cantget his due against future who made him a cuck
Jim - who "unknowingly" bout mi amigo Juan Carlos a gym - is a cuck. And he only sees his kids on weekends. And Amy got half. And he has to work as an "assistant coach" to make ends meet. FOH son. Be quiet when grown folks are talking.
that ref has some money on the game imp
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Jordan was better without Pippen than vice versa. That season with Rockets is big stain. Those seasons with the Blazers he was unable to put them over the hump. Jordan would have.
Growing up during the 90's I actually liked Pippen more than MJ. The bulls won 55 the first year without MJ but it also helped they added a lot of depth in getting Kukoc,Longley,Kerr. The next season they lost Horace Grant and Bill Cartwright. That year they were awful with a record of 34-31 before MJ came back. Pippen got exposed in the sense that he was not mentally strong enough to carry a team and live up to being the number 1 guy. He still put up great numbers but he had a bunch of meltdowns during the season and was a terrible leader who couldn't keep himself composed. Scottie had the incident where he threw the chair on the court and got suspended. He was also on ESPN every week demanding to get traded and complaining about Jerry Krause.
Once MJ came back it restored some structure and semblance for the bulls and they ended up going 13-4 for the rest of the year and winning 47 games. MJ was a beast even during the final le run where Scottie missed I think the first 20-30 games, MJ still kept the bulls afloat with the second best record in the east up until Pippen came back.
There are guys that are going to be great players regardless of where they play ala Pippen, David Robinson but at the same time they can never win a championship being the number 1 guy. I look at a guy like Paul George if the Clippers win it all and he will fall in that category. I'm not saying he's as good as Pippen-Robinson but that he just falls in a category as being great in a number 2 but not as a number 1. I put Anthony Davis in that category to if the Lakers win it all because even at old age Lebron is still better at being the number 1 guy than AD.
You talking hypothetically "if Jordan played for those Blazer teams" but what I'm saying is in reality Pip was better without him than he was without Pip. That's irrefutable.
Not gonna disagree with any of this, other than to say he had legit beef with Jerry Krause. I blame Pip and his agent, but he was MAJORLY underpaid. He was easily the Robin but was paid peanuts. From 87-97, the Bulls paid him $22.3M! Didnt mean to laugh, but compare that to how much they paid Jordan ($33.1M) in 1997 alone.
And unlike today, there was no player empowerment back then. He could have easily forced the Bulls to trade him or pay him in today's NBA, but not back then.
Everyone knows what he meant to MJ and the Bulls yet they paid him like a scrub. I bet that's why Horace left for the Magic in 94 too.
I don't blame Pip one bit if he lashed out. They short changed him at least $100M over 11 years he was there. It took him leaving to get paid. Sad tbh.
There are 3 things you never mess with:
A man's woman
A man's food
A man's money
In that order
It would have been the same today if Reinsdorf is the owner. Reinsdorf is old school he's not going to bend to a player no matter how bad the publicity he recieves. This is the same guy who was openly portrayed as the villain during the bulls second Three Peat but made no apologies about what he did. Now if was any other owner Scottie would be able to successfully force a trade
Pippen was severely underpaid but it was his fault for signing that deal. His agent is on the record stating that he was against Pippen signing the deal. Pippen even confirms this so Pippen only has himself to blame for that terrible contract.
Wow. Damb. SMH
LkrFan LAL with LaRoid and DaQuit exposed tonight - worries yet?
Nope. Dame was up 1-0 too.
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LkrFan LAL with LaRoid and DaQuit exposed tonight - worries yet?
That's the spirit Eduardo.
As many as Jordan without Pippen
How many rings does Magic have without Kareem?
What it has to do with Jordan's inability to win rings without elite 2nd option? True greats like Timmy, Hakeem and Dirk were able to do it
Yeah, they all won every season he played thus Jordan losing despite being the best performer in every series proves he couldn’t ever have won without Pippen. Magic at his peak couldn’t do it without Kareem but I never hear you trashing him for it.
Nobody saying that Magic is goat and head and shoulders above everybody else. That's why I don't talk about him.
Oh, wow, Jordan didn't play from 2004-2020, so all these rings doesn't count. Nevermind that Pistons contained him (as well as Seattle in 96 and Knicks in 93) and league changed rules to make it easier for Jordan. Some stars won les with much less help then Jordan. But it's LeBron who needs moar help
Book Lopez as 2nd team all defense
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ive-first-team
Robert Covington, Jimmy Butler, Embiid, Jarrett Allen, Myles Turner, Steven Adams, Whiteside, Purrtl, all say o and f that
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats
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