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    Lotta pearl clutching going on over Bernie ...


    meanwhile;

    1)russia cyber ing the usa to help trump
    2) intel reports attack to congress
    3) trump loses his and fires the intel guy for doing his job and reporting the attack
    4) trump places a cultist in charge of intel and makes it clear
    “ the usa/ national security- your job is to KEEP the truth from americans”
    5) trump sends out his henchmen to lie about russias attack
    6) russia now gets the message: “usa is disarmed and open to attack and you have the usa presidents permission to attack”


    but


    ”bernie defended castro in 19 ing82!!!”


    wtf is wrong with americans?
    More whataboutism ... not a good look

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    If you can't defend Bernie's muh literacy brigade schtick without using the following words: Trump, Russia, Ukraine, National Intelligence, or Impeached(ment), then you are going to be in for some rough times ahead.

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    If you can't defend Bernie's muh literacy brigade schtick without using the following words: Trump, Russia, Ukraine, National Intelligence, or Impeached(ment), then you are going to be in for some rough times ahead.
    I’d defend it from the historically accurate perspective but I don’t think that’s what you’re saying...from a political perspective there’s absolutely no way to defend his Castro comments.

    If he just kept his mouth shut the conversation everyone would be having right now is “Who’s going to stop Bernie” instead the conversation is about Castro and whether or not Bernie is a communist.

    He needs to just swallow his pride and give the obligatory line condemning Castro like every other presidential candidate does.

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    No, he doesn't. Every time it's brought up he says Well actually people read I like read read good Castro good. He's an arrogant idiot.
    nah

    young people want a revolution

    young people dont give a about castro or the cold war or communism


    young people are saying- “the rich got their piece of the pie- we want our share”


    only old scurred boomers are afraid of bernie saying somethIng wrong


    old terrified people — afraid to lose - lolol



    young people arent leaving bernie no matter how much you guys are terrified of losing


    those republican talking points got scared dems clutching dem pearls

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    nah

    young people want a revolution

    young people dont give a about castro or the cold war or communism


    young people are saying- “the rich got their piece of the pie- we want our share”


    only old scurred boomers are afraid of bernie saying somethIng wrong


    old terrified people — afraid to lose - lolol



    young people arent leaving bernie no matter how much you guys are terrified of losing


    those republican talking points got scared dems clutching dem pearls
    You're coming off as arrogant as Bernie is and just as clueless.

    This is bad, especially if Bernie learns nothing from it.

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    Why does Homer's posts come out like letters? Is it just me who sees that?

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    Why does Homer's posts come out like letters? Is it just me who sees that?
    I do it occasionally for effect. Looks like your posts go through Western Union if overused.

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    The case that Bernie Sanders is just as electable as the more moderate candidates thus appears to rest on a leap of faith: that youth voter turnout would surge in the general election by double digits if and only if Bernie Sanders is nominated, compensating for the voters his nomination pushes to Trump among the rest of the electorate.

    There are reasons to doubt a Sanders-driven youth turnout surge of this size would materialize. First, people who promise in surveys they will vote often don’t, meaning the turnout estimates that Sanders’s electability case rests upon are probably extremely inaccurate. Second, such a turnout surge is large in comparison to other effects on turnout. For example, Sanders would need to stimulate a youth turnout boost much larger than the turnout boost Barack Obama’s presence on the ballot stimulated among black voters in 2008.

    Third, Sanders’s electability case requires this 11 percentage point turnout increase among young voters in 2020 to occur on top of any turnout increase that would otherwise occur if another Democrat were nominated.

    If the turnout of all age groups increases from 2016 to 2020 (as happened from 2014 to 2018), then the turnout among young people must increase by 11 percentage points above and beyond this broader trend, and must do so solely due to Sanders’s presence on the ticket. Finally, youth voter turnout doesn’t usually go up or down by nearly as much as 11 percentage points from election to election; the Sanders boost would have to be truly unprecedented.

    And this enormous 11 percentage point turnout boost is only enough to make Sanders as electable as the more moderate candidates, given the other votes he loses to Trump. For him to be the most electable Democratic candidate based on his ability to inspire youth turnout, Sanders’s nomination would need to increase youth turnout by even more.
    Early polls are never a surefire guide to what will happen in an election months later. But Democrats should not be very reassured by early polls that find Sanders faring as well against Trump as the more moderate candidates: These numbers may only look decent for Sanders because they assume he will inspire a youth turnout miracle. Our survey data reveals voters of all parties moving to Trump if Sanders is nominated, a liability papered over by young voters who claim they would be inspired to vote by Sanders alone.

    The gamble Democrats supporting Sanders based on his early polls against Trump must be ready to make is that, despite the evidence to the contrary, the lowest-participating segment of the electorate will turn out at remarkably high rates because Sanders is nominated.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...moderates-data

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    I do it occasionally for effect. Looks like your posts go through Western Union if overused.
    I dont get it?

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    You're coming off as arrogant as Bernie is and just as clueless.

    This is bad, especially if Bernie learns nothing from it.

    arrogant about what?

    here is the truth;

    trump is cheating- there is zero chance anyone will outcheat him- zero

    so we are ed


    bernie - in this post trump russia world


    is the last shot to match trumps ery- the evidence is in the current freak-out



    only someone that can upset the applecart as much as trump did has a chance to somehow wake the sleeping zombie en led americans who are snoozing while their country is being destroyed from within


    if bernie gets ed again - goodbye to any semblance of normalcy


    bernie got the kids, the poor, the browns, the blacks


    only scared boomers and white supremacists are against bernie


    the rest of the sane population is responding to bernies message of revolution


    its a long shot - but you gotta stand up to trump and russia and only a movement of angry aware people can stop trump now.

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    arrogant about what?

    here is the truth;

    trump is cheating- there is zero chance anyone will outcheat him- zero

    so we are ed


    bernie - in this post trump russia world


    is the last shot to match trumps ery- the evidence is in the current freak-out



    only someone that can upset the applecart as much as trump did has a chance to somehow wake the sleeping zombie en led americans who are snoozing while their country is being destroyed from within


    if bernie gets ed again - goodbye to any semblance of normalcy


    bernie got the kids, the poor, the browns, the blacks


    only scared boomers and white supremacists are against bernie


    the rest of the sane population is responding to bernies message of revolution


    its a long shot - but you gotta stand up to trump and russia and only a movement of angry aware people can stop trump now.
    If you don't want me to support Bernie, you're doing a bang-up job.

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    The article doesn't specifically address yet another cohort of voters who, rather than switching from D to R, would opt to just not vote.

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    If you don't want me to support Bernie, you're doing a bang-up job.

    hahaha


    welp

    you can join later -once there is no other choice

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    INSIDE BERNIE SANDERS’ HUGE SUPER TUESDAY ADVANTAGE

    Because Sanders is running away with Super Tuesday, less than two weeks before the March 3 primaries.

    That is the takeaway from the latest edition of The Forecast

    Desk HQ that looks at polls, demographics, fundraising numbers, media hits and historical trends to determine the likelihood of each candidate winning the nomination.

    his real triumph could come on Super Tuesday, when 14 states carrying nearly a third of the overall Democratic delegates will vote.

    That would put the Democratic socialist on the inside track to securing an insurmountable delegate lead.

    Former Vice President Joe Biden finishes second in our Super Tuesday forecast, earning 352 delegates.

    He’s followed by Bloomberg at 192 — those results could change if his disastrous debate performance leads to a plunge in the polls —

    with Warren (116), Klobuchar (32) and Buttigieg (13) bringing up the rear in the March 3 states.

    Given that Democrats allocate delegates on a proportional basis by state and congressional district, rather than winner-take-all,

    a lead in the hundreds is exceedingly hard to lose.

    Sanders is projected to win most of the March 3 states,

    including narrow triumphs over Biden in Texas and Bloomberg in North Carolina.

    But his expected bump comes largely on the strength of a huge advantage in California:

    We show him earning about 28 percent of the vote, with Biden at 16 percent.

    That would mean potentially a 116-delegate lead from California alone.

    early voting has already begun in several March 3 battlegrounds — including California, Texas and North Carolina.

    That means any momentum shifts to come in the next 10 days would be muted by millions of votes already cast, and the snapshot as of today shows Sanders as the candidate to beat.

    He now has a 24 percent chance of securing the 1,991 delegates he needs to win the nomination outright.

    But even if Sanders doesn’t hit the magic number on the first ballot in Milwaukee in July,

    it’s highly likely that he will enter the convention with some
    sort of delegate lead.

    https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politic...default-widget

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    "Sanders would need to stimulate a youth turnout boost much larger than the turnout boost Barack Obama’s presence on the ballot stimulated among black voters in 2008."


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    arrogant about what?

    here is the truth;

    trump is cheating- there is zero chance anyone will outcheat him- zero

    so we are ed


    bernie - in this post trump russia world


    is the last shot to match trumps ery- the evidence is in the current freak-out



    only someone that can upset the applecart as much as trump did has a chance to somehow wake the sleeping zombie en led americans who are snoozing while their country is being destroyed from within


    if bernie gets ed again - goodbye to any semblance of normalcy


    bernie got the kids, the poor, the browns, the blacks


    only scared boomers and white supremacists are against bernie


    the rest of the sane population is responding to bernies message of revolution


    its a long shot - but you gotta stand up to trump and russia and only a movement of angry aware people can stop trump now.
    preach it ma niga

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    hahaha


    welp

    you can join later -once there is no other choice

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    "Sanders would need to stimulate a youth turnout boost much larger than the turnout boost Barack Obama’s presence on the ballot stimulated among black voters in 2008."

    nerdy claim up there by couch strategists ^

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    nerdy claim up there by couch strategists ^
    Appears to be backed up by data

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    Lol WWIII prognosticator talking about couch strategists

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    Bernie Sanders’s universal childcare plan would mean Millennials like me could start families

    The financial burden of having children is immense, and that’s not accounting for lifestyle changes that often accompany parenthood.

    Many new parents find themselves in need of a larger house or vehicle, or potentially reorienting their career path so that they can make more money, work closer to home, or leave the workforce for a while so they don’t have to pay for childcare.

    Having children is as much a financial decision as it is an emotional one, and for many Millennials, the numbers just don’t add up.

    It costs
    about $13,000 per year to have a child, and according to the Center for American Progress, dropping a baby off at a licensed daycare facility costs an average of $1,230 per month.

    the percentage of new mothers under the age of 35 has decreased,

    while the percentage of mothers with postsecondary degrees has
    risen.

    It’s no wonder that the American birth rate is the
    lowest it’s been since 1972.

    https://theoutline.com/post/8738/ber...=1&zi=5hjumzub

    Again, Capitalists guard the gateway to children.

    "Wanna have a kid? Pay up, suckers"




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    "Polls show declining support for sanctions among Cuban Americans.

    A June 2014 poll showed

    52% of Cuban Americans in
    Miami-Dade County, Florida, opposed the embargo and 48% supported it;

    56% of Cuban Americans in Miami-Dade County had supported the embargo in 2011,

    while 87% had supported it in 1991."


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba#Details_of_Cuba n_embargo

    Bernie could pick a lot BigCorp, Hispanic, Cuban-American votes by saying he will annul the act-of-war embargo and treat Cuba like any other country.



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    How many far left candidates of Bernie's ilk, e.g. Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, etc. flipped a House seat in 2018?

    Answer: zero
    Meanwhile, in bent Democratic Sens. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., and Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who both tacked aggressively to the center, lost by wider margins in friendlier states. And Tennessee Democratic Senate challenger Phil Bredesen, who said he would have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, got trounced by 11 percentage points to an unpopular opponent.

    The center-right of the party shouldn't really be puffing their chest either, tbh

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    arrogant about what?

    here is the truth;

    trump is cheating- there is zero chance anyone will outcheat him- zero

    so we are ed


    bernie - in this post trump russia world


    is the last shot to match trumps ery- the evidence is in the current freak-out



    only someone that can upset the applecart as much as trump did has a chance to somehow wake the sleeping zombie en led americans who are snoozing while their country is being destroyed from within


    if bernie gets ed again - goodbye to any semblance of normalcy


    bernie got the kids, the poor, the browns, the blacks


    only scared boomers and white supremacists are against bernie


    the rest of the sane population is responding to bernies message of revolution


    its a long shot - but you gotta stand up to trump and russia and only a movement of angry aware people can stop trump now.
    And the backlash.


    A revolution will involve more than Trump and Russia.
    How about, the boomers need to give all their money to charity and commit suicide.

    We free up health care care for the infants and young ones (the people who should be watched most carefully imo), and we redistribute wealth.

    Done and solved.

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    Meanwhile, in bent Democratic Sens. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., and Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who both tacked aggressively to the center, lost by wider margins in friendlier states. And Tennessee Democratic Senate challenger Phil Bredesen, who said he would have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, got trounced by 11 percentage points to an unpopular opponent.

    The center-right of the party shouldn't really be puffing their chest either, tbh

    All of the house gains were by moderate dems.

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