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  1. #76
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    Yes.
    I'm a fan of Pelton's WARP projections of how would a draftee play in the NBA next year.
    Van Vleet was Pelton's #1 when he only included NCAA players. Then Pelton said:


    Van Vleet dropped to #3 after Pelton added the International players.
    Zhou is #1 [with the "what is his real age" caveat] yet projects into the late first, early second rounds.
    Bender is #2 and will be long gone.

    Pelton top 27 mocked to the Spurs.
    #1 Zhou
    #4 Hernangomez
    #7 Zizec
    #8 Zubac
    #9 Payton
    #10 McCaw
    #12 Baldwin
    #14 Ulis
    #17 Stone
    #18 Onuaku
    #24 Yabusele
    #25 Zimmerman
    #27 Diallo

    Top #27 not mocked to the Spurs, nor earlier
    #3 Van Vleet
    #13 Warney
    #16 Baker
    #26 Paige

    I have seen Van Vleet occasionally in the mid-40s to end of draft.
    I love the stats but where does he fit? I didn't see a lot of Wichita State this year to get a good impression of what he brings to the Spurs and what they're trying to do. Spurs need a PG who can light it up occasionally to keep guys like Steph, Westbrook working

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    I was hoping someone else would mention him. He's a great shot blocker and developed some low post moves this past year.

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    My thinking is that the draft and stash routine has only been a subterfuge to avoid an American player they would have to pay. Saves a lot of money for a draft pick in the bottom of the draft that would have a 90% chance of being a failure anyway.

    I can't recall ANY draft and stash that has actually been successful in returning to the Spurs as a regular player. Scola wasn't a draft and stash. They would have brought him over immediately if the contract difficulties and money could have been worked out. Ultimately, he was never a Spur.

    Spur fans get all emotionally involved in some guy that has some bb skills but isn't ready to play in the NBA--and then it turns out they will never play in the NBA.


    Tiago Splitter.....

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    I'm ALL IN for Gary Payton II. Don't be too thrown off by mocks having him in the back half of the second round. Hill was a second round forecast on DX that wasn't in mocks until June of that year, never higher than 41. Larry Nance Jr was wasn't even in DX mocks until mid June and then as an end of second rounder, he went first round.

    Payton will be perfect, and is more point guard ready than Hill was.

    He's knocked for defensive consistency but despite that was still the 2 time PAC 12 defensive player of the year. A slashing, finishing guard with a better than 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio? A guy who averaged more steals than turnovers? An unselfish guard who is happy to move the ball early rather than pound and pound?

    A tremendous rebounder, plays strong, plays tough, ruins teams in transition. I love him. Shot is weak but if he could just get to average with Chip's help, he's going to be damn effective. Not a pure passer, but he can pass from the pick and roll just fine.

    Put him out there with Kawhi and Green and the defense will be punishing.

    He's an older player, but I like that with him. The Spurs will get likely get his best years very cheaply. Who could be happy with another Joseph situation, where the Spurs pour years and money and effort into developing him only to not be able to afford him once the light comes on.

    He is my number one target. He could make a similar impact to Hill's rookie year but I think even better, because Hill was even less prepared with regard to point duties and compe ion step up with his joke conference compared to the PAC 12
    Sounds intriguing. And he has the DNA to be great.

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    The Spurs need to draft Dejounte Murray of Washington.



    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 170 lbs
    Date of Birth: 09/19/1996
    School: Washington

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    NBADraft.net gives him a 94. The only categories below 8 are strength (he's 19 & will get stronger), leadership (he's 19), NBA ready (he's 19) and jump shot (Chip can fix).

    In other words all of his weaknesses will go away.

    He has the potential to play great D, he can get to the rack (moves are incredible), he can pass like Manu and he's athletic as . (See the videos on NBADraft.net for some ungodly fakes.)

    He's the prototypical "new" NBA guard that all great teams must now have.

    Need to move up to about 14-15 to do it -- just like they did with Kawhi.

    Then bring over Bertans.
    Couldn't be happier!!!


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    The Spurs need to draft Dejounte Murray of Washington.



    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 170 lbs
    Date of Birth: 09/19/1996
    School: Washington

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    NBADraft.net gives him a 94. The only categories below 8 are strength (he's 19 & will get stronger), leadership (he's 19), NBA ready (he's 19) and jump shot (Chip can fix).

    In other words all of his weaknesses will go away.

    He has the potential to play great D, he can get to the rack (moves are incredible), he can pass like Manu and he's athletic as . (See the videos on NBADraft.net for some ungodly fakes.)

    He's the prototypical "new" NBA guard that all great teams must now have.

    Need to move up to about 14-15 to do it -- just like they did with Kawhi.

    Then bring over Bertans.
    Holy , good call dog!!!

    Don't follow NCAA at all, so I could never make that call.

    Spurs were lucky as that this guy fell to 29.

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    Couldn't be happier!!!

    Great call, mate.

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    Good call

    Best part is that the Spurs didn't need to move up for him.

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    The Spurs need to draft Dejounte Murray of Washington.



    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 170 lbs
    Date of Birth: 09/19/1996
    School: Washington

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    NBADraft.net


    NBADraft.net gives him a 94. The only categories below 8 are strength (he's 19 & will get stronger), leadership (he's 19), NBA ready (he's 19) and jump shot (Chip can fix).

    In other words all of his weaknesses will go away.

    He has the potential to play great D, he can get to the rack (moves are incredible), he can pass like Manu and he's athletic as . (See the videos on NBADraft.net for some ungodly fakes.)

    He's the prototypical "new" NBA guard that all great teams must now have.

    Need to move up to about 14-15 to do it -- just like they did with Kawhi.

    Then bring over Bertans.
    The ing Oracle.

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    Hi guys, a bit off topic, but this Rio Olympics, Manu will most likely sharing his minutes at SG for Argentina with THIS GUY.

    He is right now one of the better prospects in Argentina and will be entering the Draft this year.

    Does he have any chance of being drafted?
    His data...


    Patricio Garino
    H: 6' 7"
    W: 203 lbs
    Bday: 05/17/1993
    (23 Years Old)
    Current Position: SF
    NBA: SG/SF

    A video of him here:


    Here are a few others:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1g7-A3OKg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIJblUu0NJM
    Wow it seems the Spurs were reading this thread =P

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    Nice calls by Russ and kaji

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    Nice call, but this is a fa camp invite so not exactly a first round talent. If you called garino for second pick (we didn't have one this year) then you'd be on point

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    Nice calls by Russ and kaji
    +1 Well done guys.

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