I mean I wouldn’t be surprised why he didn’t play as well the 1st 20 games if he felt he was underpaid. Sorry I know many people here thinks he’s a starting C, I don’t. And I hope he proves me wrong.
hard to read too much into his word choice because nuance will be lost in translation
need a german speaker to tell us what word he uses for 'underpaid' for example and if the connotation is different
irregardless of what he may think about his salary, he can be a solid starting C if he can hit 65% free throws (i.e. stay on floor in close games) and assert himself more on offense
if he does that and expands his game to add a jumper, etc., then he'll be one of our best players
hard to read too much into his word choice because nuance will be lost in translation
need a german speaker to tell us what word he uses for 'underpaid' for example and if the connotation is different
irregardless of what he may think about his salary, he can be a solid starting C if he can hit 65% free throws (i.e. stay on floor in close games) and assert himself more on offense
if he does that and expands his game to add a jumper, etc., then he'll be one of our best players
Are you all really more concerned with his "underpaid" statement?
The real issue here is the correct spelling of this man's name. Priorities, people!
Poeltl? Poetl? Pöltl?
I’m sure not talking in behalf of the Spurs. I’m no expert just a fan. But to watch Jonas gets 23 pts and 23 rebounds on a deciding game of the season, or a Dedmon or Claxton gets career nights when they play the Spurs, I say there’s terribly wrong with Spurs rim protection
Last edited by John B; 07-06-2021 at 10:01 AM.
Are you all really more concerned with his "underpaid" statement?
The real issue here is the correct spelling of this man's name. Priorities, people!
Poeltl? Poetl? Pöltl?
Poeltl is the transliteration of Pöltl. The umlaut in German gets an 'e' after the vowel when written in English.
German native here, let me give you the gist of the interview:
Video and Text 1:
- He's a defense first type of player and plans on keeping that defense first mentality, but wants to add to his game. Won't focus on individual defensive drills too much since he has a knack for defense anyways and thinks he'll furtherly improve on that end with more experience/athleticism, but rather on offense, especially with the ball (jump shot/free throws, post moves). Doesn't want to imitate Gobert/Jokic, but rather improve as the archetype of player he is.
- He feels like the Spurs have the pieces to build something. Expectations around the organization are very high, despite missing the playoffs twice. Says Spurs have some capspace in the offseason to bring in new players since it's still not clear whether they bring back the vets.
- His annual salary is a bit below the starting C salary in the league. Said it might look different if they negotiated this summer. Says he's content though ("there is no reason to complain at all") since money isn't his highest priority. He's working towards his next contract now. (I don't see a problem with the statement)
Video and Text 2:
- At first, it was hard to see the season positively since they struggled in the 2nd half of the season after a good first half. Now he can say it was a season filled with ups and downs, but regarding his development, he is (somewhat) satisfied.
- Says it's his sixth year now and he has to deliver more (I very much don't see a problem with this statement)
Video and Text 3:
- Since he's a starter and has a higher standing within the team and organization, he's more involved in terms of communication with Coaches and PATFO regarding not only in-game adjustments, but rather overall communication regarding the team as a whole
- He's having offseason training in Vienna right now, where he's working on his shooting technique (with the new NBA ball) and shoots "a very large amount" of freethrows. Would like to participate in one of the training camps of the Austrian National Team, if the Spurs allow it. Gets back to the States in August.
- It's still in the air whether Pop returns or not. Poeltl says "the way Pop's wired he could coach for ten more years". He'd enjoy having him back as coach because "he is a leader that cannot be replaced easily".
- US Olympic Team is "not as good as 2012, but still the favorite".
Video and Text 4:
- Hopes with more vaccinations and lower infections, there will be a return to a more normal situation. Doesn't think it'll be a normal season, but we might get a reasonably close to normal season as long as there are no major setbacks
- Likes the Bucks x Suns finals, feels like a breath of fresh air, especially for the younger generation of players
- some talk about the Euros (soccer) and the Austrian National Team
Last edited by Bojo; 07-06-2021 at 10:45 AM. Reason: English hard
Thanks.
He feels underpaid. It would be different if negotiations were made this Summer. He's working on his next contract. That to me is more money-motivated than expanding his game.
He won't focus on his individual defensive drills too much. Dude, Jonas schooled you the last game of the season. You have more defensive learning to do.
He said he is somewhat satisfied with his development. Really? Your 6th year and you can't hit beyond 3 feet?
Eubanks should have his height, really. I mean I see Baynes hurting people trying to dunk on him.
Stop with Jonas. Of his 23 points he made only 11 against Poeltl (5/9 - that’s not bad)
And stop with hating on Poeltl and pretending to not hate on him. Did he steal your wife? Looks like he can say whatever he wants and you make the worst of it. He was asked in an interview about his contract and answered the question. What‘s wrong with that? He‘s a pro - of course he plays for a new contract - like every guy in the NBA. You completely ignore the fact that he mentions that money isn‘t the most important thing for him and that he‘s satified with his salary.
He litterally says that he has to deliver more - a great sign for me that he‘s aware of his shortcomings and that he‘s going to improve his skills in the offseason.
He's a pretty good defensive specialist. His whole offensive game needs some work, but I don't mind him being on the roster. There's certainly worse big men out there.
We're seeing a trend of players emerging in their 6th years so let's see if it holds true here
fyi, here are the correct quotes from the interview:
So he never said that he feels to be underpaid. The reporter war bringing it up.Reporter:
"Is the contract good for you? Some people say that you are underpaid?"
Pöltl:
"Well I don’t think that way. I don’t get into those discussions: Would this summer be a better year for contracts? Well yes maybe, but I really can’t complain and I am working now as hard as I can."
Another quote:
I'm practicing every day. I work on pick and roll action and on my shooting. I also want to work more on the post game. We worked in SA already with the new ball and I have one here as well.
More from the interview:
First I was not as aggressive as a starter as I should be, it took me some time. It got better later in the season and I am working on that, first after the season in SA and now in Vienna. I try to be more versatile in my offensive game.
I will always be a defensive minded player, that’s my nature. But of course I need to improve on all levels. I know I have to work on offense, I try to get as many repe ions as possible in my training. I want to grow as a player and I am working hard on it.
I think what he means by working toward his next contract is that he will improve his weaknesses.
Jakob's calling card is obviously his defense and rim protection, and I'm fine with him hanging his hat there.
Even with his limited offensive skillset, he averaged 11.6 PP36 last season and that pretty much all came on rolling to the rim and offensive rebounds. He also made strides in his free throw shooting after an abysmal start.
If Poeltl can succeed in adding ANY sort of offense to his game (a hook shot, maybe a short jumper) and bump that up to 15 PP36, he would become one of the best contracts for a center in the league.
Dude talked a big game last off season about how hard he was working on his game and blah blah blah. The season started and he showed up out of shape and shooting 18% from the foul line. Last year it was I should be a starter, this year it’s ok underpaid, next year it will be m not used correctly on offense to show off my unique offensive move set. Gtfoh
You're never gonna convince a player hater to stop hating on the player, tbh. Everything you said is true though - the game against the Grizzlies (all of them, really) exposed our lack of a proper PF with size much more than it did Poeltl's defensive shortcomings. Reminds me of a game against the Bulls this very season, where some poster (I think it was John B himself?) was talking at Poeltl after the game too, about how he didn't contest anything and Bulls had a layup line to the hoop all game - then another poster brought the stats: turns out Poeltl had contested the most shots, by any player on either team, for the game. Eye test and counting stats are ways to evaluate players, especially on defense.
Also
Don't leave out that his PnR partner, by far the best generator for offense and points for Jakob, went down with injury an entire half season and barely played. I said before the season that we had to wait for White to come back and be healthy to see what Jakob could do, and alas - he came back, and Jak immediately started to string together double-digit games. Then he goes down, and it's back to Dejounte struggling with entry passes and taking pullup J's every time in the PnR. To DJ's credit, he got better at finding a rolling Jak as the season went on, especially those crisp bounce passes, but it still doesn't compare to the passing game that White has.
A hook shot would be sweet, a jumper of any kind I'm not holding out hopes for. I'm actually most eager to see him develop a post game. There's so many easy points to be had nowadays, with so few capable big men defending the rim, a simple fake and layup off a good pass is enough to score 8 times out of 10. No need to get fancy, dream-shake level moves either, just the confidence to do it and a certain amount of touch is enough most times. Jakob's got to make better use of his size, especially when teams are trotting out small-ball Cs. Gotta punish those.
Crazy part is he had a post up game in college, but that has gone MIA since he was drafted.
It's probably due to a myriad of reasons why, but we need him to at least be a threat on mismatches. Which he totally isn't, right now.
Youtube isn't playing the video for me, got another link or something? Thanks. Either way, I think I know which one you're talking about.
It's always sad to see NBA players who had a lot of weapons in their arsenal growing up, be relegated to doing much less on offense, just because it's more valuable for another player to be ball-hogging and making things happen. Not saying it's wrong, analytics don't lie, but it's certainly sad. Most recently Brook Lopez on the Bucks is the flag bearer for this phenomena, it was awesome seeing him get an opportunity to use his full skillset last round when Giannis went down. Such a shame the way post game has been bas ized by the NBA...
Anyways, back to Jakob, I agree. It's definitely part mental of him not being aggressive enough on mismatches, but I do wonder up to what point do the coaches tell him not to do certain things on the court. At this point though, I hope he's working any part of his offensive game, I'm not gonna get picky over which ones
Gonna find some other links and maybe something from his rookie year. I feel like he showed more offensively that year, but has "regressed" or been less aggressive finding his own offense since.Youtube isn't playing the video for me, got another link or something? Thanks. Either way, I think I know which one you're talking about.
It's always sad to see NBA players who had a lot of weapons in their arsenal growing up, be relegated to doing much less on offense, just because it's more valuable for another player to be ball-hogging and making things happen. Not saying it's wrong, analytics don't lie, but it's certainly sad. Most recently Brook Lopez on the Bucks is the flag bearer for this phenomena, it was awesome seeing him get an opportunity to use his full skillset last round when Giannis went down. Such a shame the way post game has been bas ized by the NBA...
Anyways, back to Jakob, I agree. It's definitely part mental of him not being aggressive enough on mismatches, but I do wonder up to what point do the coaches tell him not to do certain things on the court. At this point though, I hope he's working any part of his offensive game, I'm not gonna get picky over which ones
Part of the problem is that Jakob got almost no time in the D-League (2 games) as a Raptor - other than Siakam & VanFleet. And the Raptors were a playoff-team, so he was forced into a very strict role.Youtube isn't playing the video for me, got another link or something? Thanks. Either way, I think I know which one you're talking about.
It's always sad to see NBA players who had a lot of weapons in their arsenal growing up, be relegated to doing much less on offense, just because it's more valuable for another player to be ball-hogging and making things happen. Not saying it's wrong, analytics don't lie, but it's certainly sad. Most recently Brook Lopez on the Bucks is the flag bearer for this phenomena, it was awesome seeing him get an opportunity to use his full skillset last round when Giannis went down. Such a shame the way post game has been bas ized by the NBA...
Anyways, back to Jakob, I agree. It's definitely part mental of him not being aggressive enough on mismatches, but I do wonder up to what point do the coaches tell him not to do certain things on the court. At this point though, I hope he's working any part of his offensive game, I'm not gonna get picky over which ones
gotta say i am happy that he's our starting center, as with any other one, i think we would actually win games and right now we need loses.
always great to have someone that gives zero about basketball helping you tank.
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