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    No thanks, I don't want Simmons at that kind of cost.

    I don't know. Personally, I'd rather have White, Young, and two firsts, if I'm Morey. This is especially true if he has to part with Maxey too. Seems like a fair deal for Simmons from San Antonio's perspective --6 months ago it would have been considered an underpay for him.

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    Spurs would have to trade Murray for a shooter then.

    Or Poeltl for shooting and effectively run Simmons at center.

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    I don't know. Personally, I'd rather have White, Young, and two firsts, if I'm Morey. This is especially true if he has to part with Maxey too. Seems like a fair deal for Simmons from San Antonio's perspective --6 months ago it would have been considered an underpay for him.
    No one cares what Morey wants, just like no one cared when the Spurs wanted Siakam or Anunoby but got DePression instead. Morey is going to get bent over. I don't want Simmons on a fair deal.

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
    Ben Simmons
    Aminu
    Jefferies


    Philadelphia
    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton



    Center Poeltl, Wiseman, Collins

    PG Walker, Jones, Forbes

    SG Vassel, Milton, Primo

    SF Wiggins, McDermott, Bates-Diop

    PF Johnson, Samanic, Londale


    Possible Shooting Guard Pickup

    2Way Wieskamp

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    at trading White for Wiggins

    Also, SAC's offer listed above is basically neutral value. If that's what it would take for the Kings, SA could beat that while keeping their picks.

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
    Ben Simmons
    Aminu
    Jefferies


    Philadelphia
    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton



    Center Poeltl, Wiseman, Collins

    PG Walker, Jones, Forbes

    SG Vassel, Milton, Primo

    SF Wiggins, McDermott, Bates-Diop

    PF Johnson, Samanic, Londale


    Possible Shooting Guard Pickup

    2Way Wieskamp
    no man. Lot to give up for a pretty paltry return

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    The Sixers reportedly had to pick between Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons, per JeffZillgitt


    “The Simmons-Embiid rift had been escalating, a person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports.”

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    Just FYI, GS was allegedly shopping Green last deadline, and had no takers. I don’t think they’d have a problem with him being a trade piece. Kerr was just done with his ass when he was in the process of running off Durant.
    and he just threw him and their ownership under the bus again. I could easily see them ship out draymond

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    The Sixers reportedly had to pick between Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons, per JeffZillgitt


    “The Simmons-Embiid rift had been escalating, a person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports.”
    Embiid said himself this was bull , fwiw

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
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    Jefferies


    Philadelphia
    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton
    No, no, no.

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
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    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton
    I don’t care about Shake, and we could get Wiggins/wiseman for ending contracts, Wiseman being the sweetener for taking Wiggins awful contract. So, what exactly are we getting for the other 4 players we’re shipping out?

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    I don’t care about Shake, and we could get Wiggins/wiseman for ending contracts, Wiseman being the sweetener for taking Wiggins awful contract. So, what exactly are we getting for the other 4 players we’re shipping out?



    Not getting Simmons thank God

    Not giving up any draft picks

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    Report: Timberwolves talking about Karl-Anthony Towns-Anthony Edwards-D’Angelo Russell-Ben Simmons core


    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-...001424557.html

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
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    Philadelphia
    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton



    Center Poeltl, Wiseman, Collins

    PG Walker, Jones, Forbes

    SG Vassel, Milton, Primo

    SF Wiggins, McDermott, Bates-Diop

    PF Johnson, Samanic, Londale


    Possible Shooting Guard Pickup

    2Way Wieskamp
    Did Dejounte retire?

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    How about a starting point of:

    Golden State
    Ben Simmons
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    Philadelphia
    Derrick White
    Thad Young
    Lonnie Walker
    Drew Eubanks

    San Antonio
    Andrew Wiggins
    James Wiseman
    Shake Milton



    Center Poeltl, Wiseman, Collins

    PG Walker, Jones, Forbes

    SG Vassel, Milton, Primo

    SF Wiggins, McDermott, Bates-Diop

    PF Johnson, Samanic, Londale


    Possible Shooting Guard Pickup

    2Way Wieskamp
    I would do this trade. also Murray would be starting.

    Dont forget last year people were hoping for a LMA for a Wiggins and first 1st trade. that is basically this except it is white instead of LMA. the other 3 players are nothing. AFA is someone that could be released. Euwbanks (who i kind of like) is still an end of bench player. the only other plyaer is Thad. He is worth a low first rounder. There were also several people who were saying noway they would take LMA for that and would want more.

    Wiggins also has gotten better and has a year less on his contract then last year.

    I dont know if anyone would agree with me but I would rather have wiggins then Ben. yes this is how low I value Ben. Wiggins has gotten better on O and D. Simmons not so much.

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    Did Dejounte retire?


    Sorry my bad, believe me he was there at one time.

    We have so many bodies on the team to get rid of, by the time I could get through the Trade Machine without running into cap issues with each team he fell off my Rubik’s Cube. LOL

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    Not getting Simmons thank God

    Not giving up any draft picks
    This is a ridiculous justification. Just don't do any trade, and you can keep your picks and not get Simmons. There's no reason to throw half the roster in a fire to accomplish that.

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    Sorry my bad, believe me he was there at one time.

    We have so many bodies on the team to get rid of, by the time I could get through the Trade Machine without running into cap issues with each team he fell off my Rubik’s Cube. LOL
    I think you meant to have Murray at PG, you still have Walker even though you show Phil ending up with Walker.

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    I would do this trade. also Murray would be starting.

    Dont forget last year people were hoping for a LMA for a Wiggins and first 1st trade. that is basically this except it is white instead of LMA. the other 3 players are nothing. AFA is someone that could be released. Euwbanks (who i kind of like) is still an end of bench player. the only other plyaer is Thad. He is worth a low first rounder. There were also several people who were saying noway they would take LMA for that and would want more.

    Wiggins also has gotten better and has a year less on his contract then last year.

    I dont know if anyone would agree with me but I would rather have wiggins then Ben. yes this is how low I value Ben. Wiggins has gotten better on O and D. Simmons not so much.
    What?!? Trading LMA to the Warriors for Wiggins was about getting a draft pick and choking on Wiggins's contract. It was not because anyone thought Wiggins would improve the roster. I certainly wouldn't trade White for him. I like White better and if we are going to trade him, it would be for a plus player, not a net negative player.

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    Supposedly GS is now the frontrunner to land this fool. They can have him.

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    Supposedly GS is now the frontrunner to land this fool. They can have him.
    they have plenty of shooters there so i think the fit would be pretty good for them.

    i'd rather him not go there but oh well.

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    The Sixers literally have no offers. Simmons is no Kawhi, but none of the players that any of these teams are putting on the table (GS, Sac, Minny) are close to DeRozan. Heck, they barely sniff Poeltl.

    The Kings are trying to get away with Hield and Bagley. Hield is good from the outside, but not a very efficient player otherwise. And he sucks defensively. He’s 28 and not on a cheap contract. Bagley is still young and can fit with Embiid, but is also due for a new contract soon.

    The Warriors have to send out one of Draymond or Wiggins, and not sure their other prospects make a deal attractive enough.

    If the Wolves want a core of Russell-Towns-Edwards-Simmons, what the heck are they shipping out? Beasley, Beverley and Taurean Prince? Barf.



    Any Spurs’ offer is much more attractive to the Sixers as they can make contracts match without sending any dead long-term money. The Sixers could bring in another team if they wanted to turn any of Young/Aminu/Hutchinson into other pieces. And the Spurs’ young pieces are under better contracts generally, and there are more of them to pick from.

    I don’t think he ends up with Spurs, but hard to see a great offer materializing.

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    Warriors don't want Green and Simmons together. Highly doubt Sixers want Green. Makes a warriors trade hard I imagine.

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