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    Absolutely....and unfortunately.
    Trump is not Italy and other counties what is your excuse for them
    Do you reaally think biden would be better
    After two months biden yeah trump was right about China
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    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and his top health official were telling citizens to take the subway and attend parades months after President Donald Trump restricted travel to coronavirus-plagued China.

    De Blasio and New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot took turns telling citizens in February and March that the virus was not as widespread as people thought. Data now show that the city is becoming the epicenter for the coronavirus, which has killed 883 New Yorkers.
    Lolducks, weren't you saying people weren't dying from the virus a few pages ago on this very thread? What a different tune you're singing...
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    I think people were relying on WHO being an unbiased organization that would give the world an accurate assessment of the problem. It turns out it is bought and paid for by red China.
    That is hilarious. Is that the new Republican / Fox News excuse? Watch news where they interview doctors on the frontlines and not millionaire mouthpiece hitmen. You are embarrassing yourself.

    A quick way to test the effectiveness of the Federal Response is to ask yourself these questions...
    1) Can I easily get a test for COVID 19?
    2) Can I easily get a test for the antibodies for the Coronavirus?
    3) Have I received cash assistance from the Federal Government to help with the economic impact?
    4) Is the Federal Government providing adequate medical supplies to frontline health workers?
    5) Does the Federal Government have a national plan for safely reopening the economy once the crisis subsides?

    COVID-19 is "19" because it has been around since last year and the Federal Government has known about it since November, yet 5 months later we still don't have a plan or adequate testing. Until we can answer "Yes" to most (if not all) of the questions above, the Federal Response cannot be viewed as anything other than a complete failure.
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    Why do parents do this to their kids, man!

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    Dont you guys ever get tired of your demobabble and your GOPslop.
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    You can unclench a bit. That 3.4% death rate is based on tested cases. Consider this:
    https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/04...state-mit-lab/
    446 test confirmed cases from an estimated 115000 = 0.00388. Suggests 1 in 250 or so case are actually getting counted in the infected count. Thus you can divide that 3.4% by 250 = 0.0136%...
    No, it's not the flu. It's slightly deadlier than the flu on an individual basis. What's worrisome, is that because there are no vaccines, nor previous exposure to such a virus (unlike the annual flu season), a LOT of people are going to get it. The CDC estimates that roughly 10% of the population gets the flu every year, for example, "CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza". In general, Herd Immunity numbers suggest that 70% or so of the population need to get a disease before herd immunity chokes it off. That in turn suggests that some 200 million or so people will get the CCP virus...
    They’re also only counting the dead who were tested positive, and died in a hospital.
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    Trump is not Italy and other counties what is your excuse for them
    Do you reaally think biden would be better
    After two months biden yeah trump was right about China
    Do I really think Biden would be better? yeah. He is not a narcissistic sociopath who can only view things by how they affect him. Trump lucked out on stopping Chinese flights. He wants to shut every border down and keep those damn foreigners out so he used the virus as an excuse to do so. If he has done such a good job, why did he spend weeks dragging his feet and calling it a democratic hoax? Because, if the virus was real, it would hurt his chances of re-election. Why did he want to get everybody back to work by Easter despite what every expert was telling? Same reason. He can only view any problem by how it affects him. MAYBE HE SHOULD START WORRYING ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY HE IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT INSTEAD OF JUST HIS OWN INTERESTS.

    And as to your comment above about Pop not nailing pussy lately. Yeah, his wife of 40+ years died two years ago you ING MORON. Let's make fun of that.

    You have long been one of the most ignorant posters on this board. Why don't you just go back to your Breitbart news or QAnon forums or DJT porn videos and quit displaying your stupidity here?
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    Lolducks, weren't you saying people weren't dying from the virus a few pages ago on this very thread? What a different tune you're singing...
    Ducks is perpetually full of . Empty unfounded partisan railings with no substance.
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    Trump is not Italy and other counties what is your excuse for them
    Do you reaally think biden would be better
    After two months biden yeah trump was right about China
    What a ing idiot. Biden, or any competent politician, would have filled the nearly dozen vacancies directly related to pandemic preparedness Trump let go vacant, funded the relevant departments in the CDC Trump closed, etc. What a know nothing moron you are.
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    That is hilarious. Is that the new Republican / Fox News excuse? Watch news where they interview doctors on the frontlines and not millionaire mouthpiece hitmen. You are embarrassing yourself.

    A quick way to test the effectiveness of the Federal Response is to ask yourself these questions...
    1) Can I easily get a test for COVID 19?
    2) Can I easily get a test for the antibodies for the Coronavirus?
    3) Have I received cash assistance from the Federal Government to help with the economic impact?
    4) Is the Federal Government providing adequate medical supplies to frontline health workers?
    5) Does the Federal Government have a national plan for safely reopening the economy once the crisis subsides?

    COVID-19 is "19" because it has been around since last year and the Federal Government has known about it since November, yet 5 months later we still don't have a plan or adequate testing. Until we can answer "Yes" to most (if not all) of the questions above, the Federal Response cannot be viewed as anything other than a complete failure.
    Maybe you should calm down and think before you post; you're the one embarrassing himself. This is what happened buddy: I was responding to Chumpdumpers point that we shouldn't trust Chinese reports and data. I never disagreed with that, I was merely adding to the conversation and pointing out that the WHO was complicit in the scandal. I have also never excused the administration for their abject failure or minimized the impact of the virus, you are assuming things I never wrote for unknown reasons, maybe you have TDS? The Trump administration has been a complete failure, in terms of both preparedness and reaction. Your timeline is pretty far off as well, the novel coronavirus was first reported to the WHO on December 31, 2019. Sure, it existed before that, in an isolated pocket in Wuhan, but there was no reason to believe there was a pandemic yet. For the next month the WHO parroted Chinese propaganda that the virus was not human to human transmissible, and there was no reason to worry, despite having boots on the ground. January 22, 2020, the WHO concedes that there is evidence of human to human transmission, but more research was needed. They didn't declare a pandemic until March 12, when the outbreaks in Europe could not be ignored any longer.
    So has this situation been exasperated by incompetence in the Federal government? Yes. Are they the ones to blame for the pandemic? They share part of the blame, but as you can see it has hit most western countries pretty hard. Most of the blame lies with China and their apparent puppet organization, the WHO.
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    So Pop was 100% correct and trump is a piece of ?

    Got it!
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    So Pop was 100% correct and trump is a piece of ?

    Got it!
    Only thing he's been right about in a long time.
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    So Pop blamed Trump for not having test, while he was traveling the country and putting on a "show" in front of 17+ thousands people each night for three more games.
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    That is our beloved Poop.
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    Why the has not ripped who for giving trump
    Bad advise ?
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    Why the has not ripped who for giving trump
    Bad advise ?

    Que!?
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    Now that Trump and McConnell got their corporate bailout those heads are going to open the country May 1st most likely. the people.
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    Now that Trump and McConnell got their corporate bailout those heads are going to open the country May 1st most likely. the people.
    We are going to see another e again if they do it which will result in another shutdown.
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    Why the has not ripped who for giving trump
    Bad advise ?
    Blocked.
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    We are going to see another e again if they do it which will result in another shutdown.
    What makes you think there will be another shutdown now that the corporations have been taken care of?
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    What makes you think there will be another shutdown now that the corporations have been taken care of?
    I would figure there will be another e again that will over flood hospitals all across the country if you reopen. By doing this you risk collapsing the healthcare system and putting millions of people at risk. Governors can order states to have a shutdown again if they feel things getting out of control. Granted I do see your point with these corporations that their greed will cause them to act irrational and try to prevent a shutdown along with Governors of republican states.
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    I would figure there will be another e again that will over flood hospitals all across the country if you reopen. By doing this you risk collapsing the healthcare system and putting millions of people at risk. Governors can order states to have a shutdown again if they feel things getting out of control. Granted I do see your point with these corporations that their greed will cause them to act irrational and try to prevent a shutdown along with Governors of republican states.
    Best quote I’ve read on this. Can’t remember the source to give props.

    Allowing the states to set covid policy is like allowing peeing sections in the pool.
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    I would figure there will be another e again that will over flood hospitals all across the country if you reopen. By doing this you risk collapsing the healthcare system and putting millions of people at risk. Governors can order states to have a shutdown again if they feel things getting out of control. Granted I do see your point with these corporations that their greed will cause them to act irrational and try to prevent a shutdown along with Governors of republican states.
    Of course there is going to be another e. But we're not Trump's and McConnell's cons uency. We don't matter. We'll be sacrificed for the dow.
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    So if you lost your job and you have kids what should they do? You can only keep things closed for so long but they will be a time people just say it and start going out and trying to make money for their family people need to eat. But if you think your going to quarantine the whole United States for 3 more months I just don’t see that being realistic and I don’t think most Americans who are unemployed could handle that time being jobless.
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    Best quote I’ve read on this. Can’t remember the source to give props.

    Allowing the states to set covid policy is like allowing peeing sections in the pool.
    There is a thing called State Rights. Good luck trying to stop how certain states handle this differently.
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