Yes that was a scouting from the Warriors in Vegas where he was with his NT
Well, I sure hope it plays out that way....damn them for getting my hopes up...
Yes that was a scouting from the Warriors in Vegas where he was with his NT
Yeah, you're right. I don't think Giddey has done any private workouts.
Here are a few Big Boards to check out.
They may not quantify as good down the road but at least offer a variety from respected names:
Cool. Thanks. Needed some independent perspectives.
Would be nice if NBA GMs were as low on Kuminga, but I'm guessing not.
Hedo Turkoglu seems certain Sengun is going to Orlando.
why am i so good at calling these things? Link?
Chinook, thank you for your basketball wisdom! Love your analysis as always! I figured that you don't like ball hoggers like Murray. You kind of convinced me. Now I'm willing to trade Murray for a top 8 draft pick. Am I asking too much?
I see it now.
i think they’ll take him at #5 to avoid the risk of OKC getting him
Mock:
1. Detroit - Cade
2. Rockets - Green
3. Cavaliers - Mobley
4. Raptors - Suggs
5. Magic - either Kuminga or Barnes
6. Thunder - What’s left between Kuminga and Barnes
7. Warriors - Moody
8. Magic - Sengun
9. Kings - Wagner
10. Pelicans - Kispert - they need a shooter badly
11. Hornets - Jackson - has ties with LaMelo
12. Spurs
edit: i just realized Hedo said he thinks theyll take Sengun at 8
You have either Kuminga or Barnes falling to us...
Edit- nevermind....I must be blind...lol
question is pop going to give the lottery pick adequate minutes to jump the que roster rotation to develop into a star player or he just bury them on the bench over his sucking buttlicking favorites?
Sengun to Orlando does make a lot of sense. They have a ton of guards who, though not that good, probably aren't worse than any guard available at 8.
And they might suppose that Isaac when healthy would be a great match for Sengun defensively. And I'm sure they have already given up on Bamba and aren't married to Carter Jr.
I hadn’t really looked up why Halliburton dropped to 12 (Sac) last season when he was ranked about the 5th best player by some experts. I really didn’t pay much attention to the draft stuff before it happened last year so I didn’t have any kind of horse in the race and I was fairly happy with Vassell (still am).
But I got curious and found reports after the draft suggesting he orchestrated his own fall to 12 bc he felt Sacramento was a good fit for him and he would get playing time there. For whoever cares: https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article247300064.html
That just reminded me of all the cloak and dagger stuff with Giddey and all the fawning over him from the Warriors. Surprisingly even without workouts, he has risen and now it’s possible he doesn’t even fall to the Spurs so I have started looking at other prospects. I think despite my reservations earlier I d be really excited if he was drafted, but I now have a different kind of reservation.
Even if a player doesn’t have a choice on where they get drafted necessarily, I do believe if a prospect is in love with a different team and not interested in San Antonio, Spurs wouldn’t draft him bc that would just be asking for trouble down the line.
I haven’t seen where Giddey is dissuading anybody, and one would think that is stupid, but after seeing the articles on Halliburton, who knows?
I think this kind of aspect gets overlooked (I know I did), once you are in the lottery all these guys get courted, go to dinner, etc. personality and how enthusiastic the player is about the franchise surely plays some role in this. That’s not to say you would draft someone who underwhelmed, but when you have to make up your mind between a few equally good players, the fit and how much that guy liked the Spurs when he visited surely matters.
Edit: speculation: Sacramento I think courted Franz and have likely sold him on fit as well.
Last edited by SAGirl; 07-24-2021 at 06:13 PM.
Imagine if the Spurs didn’t draft Halliburton bc they had Murray… I don’t want to think about it like that but they can’t get attached to anybody in terms of not drafting the most talented guy bc they don’t need anything at that position…
In that case, I see the rumors of the Murray trade differently.
Kings, please trade out so you don't take my boy Franz...
Along with SA Girl's thoughts, I can see Giddey going to GSW at #7. I think Pels could take Moody over Kispert. Hornets I think take a big, either Jackson or Jones. This leaves the Spurs with some uncertainty.
Exactly the stuff I was saying way earlier in this thread... I want the Spurs to draft someone who will embrace the team and the city. Partly why I see there's a strong chance of them drafting Duarte... the guy is a clear Spurs fan, almost "likes" every thing the Spurs post on their social media in the same manner Kai actively "likes" everything the Warriors post.
Starts at 22:42
Shams thinks there's potential to have a historic amount of movement during the draft
What do the kings want in exchange for Franz?
Actually Bouknight needs to be up there. I think he might go top 8. Not convinced Magic select Sengun, though.
He even said himself, that he says this every year, that there’s going to be the most movement… lol every year.
Theres certainly interest in moving, but the teams interested want ready to play guys so these aren’t easy trades.
It would explain Spurs making White and Murray available though I bet they have their own horse that they would do a trade like that for and they likely don’t get him.
But I think there’s going to be trades in the lower part of the first round maybe? From teams with multiple picks? I haven’t paid attention to any of that.
He mentioned Bouknight right away as a riser, as well as Duarte. I have to look at them
Sengun I think might fall and he’d be a God send for the Spurs. I think he’s probably not done growing and may have also grown since last measured. Jaren Jackson about his same age when drafted grew an inch and he’s now a legit 7 footer and I think Luka Samanic, also drafted very young grew an inch. I think he’ll be fine when he matures a bit more in a year. One wouldn’t say this of every prospect but the ones who were around 18-19 this past year do stand to grow a little more yet, specially big men.
Also, OKC linked to Bouknight. And Shams said he could go in the top 6-7.
I wonder if OKC doesn’t pick the consensus causing a mix up in that mock by Dejounte as other teams will snatch whoever “fell”
I like your predictions btw.
Last edited by SAGirl; 07-24-2021 at 07:27 PM.
Yeah, normally you don't have smart teams in the high lottery like this. You don't expect Oklahoma City or Golden State to make mistakes.
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