a 11 without Cruyff and a at a less extend beckenbauer / di stefano does not feel right tbh fwiw
R. Carlos is overrated
The men out of ronaldo list are probably him, zizou (even if it breaks my heart), carlos, buffon over yachin ? not sure, cristiano ?
Carlos is not overrated
He was great on both ends
one of them is unlike the others
he was great offensively and was good on defense and sometimes horrendous see France Brasil in 2006
All great players have stinkers once in a while lol
that was an example
Not as bad as Pessi stinkers
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