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Counting stats without context in '21 . . .
Boy... people are just angry and weird in and around sports forums.
I don't get it, but whatever floats your boats.
Counting stats without context in '21 . . .
We haven’t been in this position for a long time.....I’m excited too!
It's unfortunate that people right off rookies after one year, especially one as raw as James Wiseman.
Even Luka Samanic was declared a bust when he hadn't shown enough in Pre-season games (Start of his 2nd yr btw).
Yes, GS played considerably better w/o him on the floor but that's not to say that will continue long term.
He showed flashes, a workable blueprint/archetype to receive minutes and think he'll be better as a result of his experiences through his rookie year.
We can question his basketball a en and his potential as a star, but I think the "character" hit pieces are off the mark.
Woj's sit down interview with him from Feb 2020 was very enlightening to what kind of guy James Wiseman is.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/...g-memphis-saga
Spurs future sf baaaby!
Best thing to happen to the Warriors last year was Wiseman getting hurt. They're desperate to dump him.
He was smart to shut himself down in college. Completely hid the fact that he doesn't know how to play basketball. No way he'd be drafted #2 with a do-over.
I don’t see the Kings passing him up, unfortunately. I tried to convince myself that there is someone else who is a better fit for the Kings, but I cannot find anyone. If not the Kings, then the Magic.
Franz’ build reminds me of Kawhi’s. He looks like he has really long arms.
Being fast or athletic or a freak is nothing without a high BBIQ. Might as well draft a deer otherwise.
Kings make lots of mistakes, despite hitting with Halliburton last year. I can see Wagner drifting out of the top 10, as he's not perceived as having a star's ceiling.I don’t see the Kings passing him up, unfortunately. I tried to convince myself that there is someone else who is a better fit for the Kings, but I cannot find anyone. If not the Kings, then the Magic.
Franz’ build reminds me of Kawhi’s. He looks like he has really long arms.
Kings were making mistakes before Monte McNair came along in Sept 2020. McNair’s background is in sports analytics, and worked under Daryl Morey in Houston. Wagner shines in all advanced metrics. It’s a done deal.
Not advocating for drafting a low IQ player but Dwight Howard, for example, was a star in his prime, a future HOF'er and I would say his BBIQ is extremely low.
The best who have ever done it clearly have the IQ but you can still play this game by being an extreme athlete and focusing on certain aspects of your craft.
Some players can have a great career just putting up shots on some teams, others just playing defense. And those can be okay, but with the 12th pick I'd want one that can contribute to the beautiful game.
I would do wiseman and that 7th pick for Derozen
And you would immediately be named Executive of the Year (even though the year hasn't yet happened).
https://sports.yahoo.com/8-players-w...152905321.html
8 players who improved their 2021 NBA draft stock
I think Sixers could want DDR for Simmons where Wiggins goes to Spurs. Unfortunately it'll have to happen after the draft when DDR can officially speak to teams.
But I can see DDR and Wiseman going to Sixers. Simmons to warriors with future 1st. Wiggins and one of warriors draftees to Spurs. The Sixers flip Wiseman for a shooter and then sign Lowry.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...ottery-combine
Post combine mock, a lot of movement due to more a lot of intel coming in.
- Barnes ahead of Kuminga
- Bouknight and Giddey cracking the top 10.
- Jalen Johnson at 12.
- Kai Jones cracks lottery.
- Sengun and Moody outside of the lottery.
- Promise? Duarte LAL at 22 , Jackson WAS at 15
- Trey Murphy III late riser might be in our range in a couple of weeks
- Thor, Primo, Bones, Grimes in 1st round
- McBride, Abmas, Bassey, Desonmu out
- NO pick at 10 is gettable
Our wing selection is Franz, Jalen, Kispert, Moody and maybe Trey Murphy and JT Thor
Last edited by rankingtear; 06-29-2021 at 09:09 AM.
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Just out of curiosity for the the people wanting Franz Wagner…. I wouldn’t mind him tbh but, don’t y’all think he’s kind of identical to what the spurs should have in Luka? Like would they really draft another guy that kind of has the same abilities when they’re trying to develop one already
Other than the skin color I don't think they play the same at all.
30 Days until the Draft!
Hooyah!
Kuminga has shades of Gerald Green to me. Green was able to stick in the league for a long time, but he was just an athlete that learned how to play enough to last. Athleticism is not knowing how to play basketball.
The comp I like most for Wagner is Andrei Kirilenko... Positive impact on both offensive & defensive sides with a relatively low usage rate, so more a well rounded glue guy than a #1 option. In college, advanced stats loved Wagner, as they did Kirilenko-- I haven't seen that from Samanic at all in any capacity. The one slight fear I have for Wagner after watching more tape on him is that a lot of his three point misses seem to be pretty bad misses, clanking off the front rim or being completely misaligned, so projections of him becoming a better than average three point shooter might be exaggerated, though his good FT% works in his favor. I think Franz is ideally a tall SG or a SF, whereas Luka is likely a PF who can maybe log some SF or C minutes.
Last edited by R. DeMurre; 06-29-2021 at 11:22 AM.
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