Wow! That 54 to 58 picks are solid prospects IMHO late in the 2nd round.
They will trade up into the top 10
They will trade down
They will stand pat with the 11th pick
They will trade the pick for player(s)
I dont think anyone thinks we can't....we're just worried that we won't...
Wow! That 54 to 58 picks are solid prospects IMHO late in the 2nd round.
I think its more likely they're bought out tbh.
Was it incompetent to refuse to ever play their best guards at the same time until the bubble?
Because why wouldn't you want Derrick White and Dejounte Murray to be intentionally limited to 24 minutes apiece?
Imagine if the bubble never happened, or if the requirements to be there were tighter and the Spurs weren't invited?
They would have just wasted an entire season without knowing if Murray and White could play together, while simultaneously killing their trade value because of minutes limits
Just absurd
We start the season, we either do well and trade nobody, or suck and make moves. Either one is fine.
The point is they've been measurably worse every year since the Kawhi departure. Clearly, if they thought they could get away with rebuilding, we know now, 3 years later, that was the wrong choice.
Two years? 17-18 they lost in the first round to the dubs, 18-19 lost in the first round to the nuggets, 19-20 didn't make the playoffs.
I'm talking about what I mentioned above. You measure in this league by how much you win or don't win. This franchise has been clearly in a steady decline since the Kawhi move, objectively so. See our track record above in the past 3 seasons.
I don't think I can because that wasn't necessarily their choice. Their choice was to retain Kawhi, but this league allows players to make that untenable. While I could nitpick about what they got in return, I feel they had to do something they didn't want to do in that particular case. I can't say the same for the rest.
It wasn't incompetent. I didn't like it and never have. But it was obvious why they did it. Signing Carroll was incompetent because they didn't do enough homework to realize he was unplayable, and the guy running the show and signing off on bringing him in was the coach who didn't play him. There was no goal that that achieved.
That's a coaching thing, which I agreed with and even brought up before you did.Not playing youth over Beli and Mills and Forbes is incompetent.
No. The goal wasn't to get future value for those players. It was to use their value as player. That's a choice you disagree with. But it wasn't incompetent. Waiving Carroll when they could've waited to use his contract in a trade is incompetent, since it didn't help them with any goal.Not trading Ddr when he might have had value is incompetent. Not moving LMA is incompetent.
I mean, they would've been behind those teams anyway. That's how "laps" work.It all is and again results: Spurs are now firmly behind now/future of not only majority of their division but the west as a whole.
They'd be going Philly if they felt they had to liquidate vets and tank. You stated a goal of being bad. That's what makes it going Philly.Spurs WOULDNT BE GOING PHILLY by cutting ties with LMA or ddr. It’s why they are not being extended and will walk for nothing.
Maybe back in the day it was.And yeah, getting top 4 picks is the best shot at a cornerstone.
It's not that we can't. It's that we won't.
Can I just fast forward to next draft?
Only thing that can make this Spurs squad watchable next year is if Keldon shows up having added a jump shot to his body.
Ugh. I need a drink.
I'm actually quite curious to read how Chin and timvp would spin those tbh. I'm guessing the "classy organization" route but genuinely interested.
I'm not necessarily putting it on LMA, he's not the one deciding he should play or not, or what role he should have.
No way DeMar takes a buyout. He's in it for the money. The full 29-30 mill or whatever.
Yup. All around mistake after mistake which allowed other teams, even without needing to be ultra sharp to put SA at the bottom of the West in terms of mid to long term.
Again, Sa drafts great and has done well there. They could get lucky and that’s great. But until that happens you would like to see signs they are above average. They need to be since Sa is a small market and there’s no cornerstone yet.
Highly doubt moves are made when they suck. They are running it back the entire way suck or slightly suck it won’t matter. The team will have lots of cash to sign people after the season and they’ll sign 38 has been combo guards or euros
Loads of cap space next year; we’ll be compe ive this year with a sturdy future. Limit dumb emotional moves......... chess not checkers. Dejounte Murray better be on notice.
Its something they've done in the past that they can look to as an example to build upon tbh.
Nice draft all BPA.
He'll give the Spurs a half mill discount and head to LA tbh.
LMA is a solid 2nd banana, especially as a big man. We have no 1st banana. DeMar is an OK 2nd banana, but a very solid 3rd banana. Like a Caron Butler type. If we had real 1st banana material, we would be an instant contender. But theres only about 5 of those in the league rn. So best we can hope for is for our young bucks to develop and trade for a stud, or develop them and hope they become that stud. We're not going to attract the superstar to move down to SA at 25-27 years old.
What? Zion? Luka? Booker? Morant? What are you talking about. Draft if clearly the way to go.
Spurs never make any major trades mid-season tbh.
the picks are ok, since this is a weak draft. What's not ok is that the Spurs don't pick a direction. You want to run it back? Ok, but at least try to improve the in team. Covington was up for grabs and would've filled a need. Richardson was available and Philly even gave a high 2nd rounder away with him. You want to run it back at least trade Mills and Gay. Do something dammit. This front office is too concerned about players feelings and liking their personality than basketball. That's been the issue for years and it's also the reason why Bryn Forbes started 150 games in a row
And getting future value should have been the goal. It’s clear now and was clear then. And yes it’s incompetent to take a terrible trade that hamstrings you and vaults you to the lower portion of the west.
Spurs buyouts are like golden parachutes
Spurs barely get any savings at all
DDR is due to earn $ 27,739,975
He probably settles for 26.5 and gets it back from his new team after the trade deadline
So what do we think about Tre Jones?
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