Former Spur: Livio Jean-Charles

[SAGirl]

There's full games of ASVEL in the Eurocup on YouTube to really get a handle on how he plays.

Oh thanks I didn't know that
Highlights were fine for a quick browsing though.

[objective]

This is was the terrible game

https://youtu.be/MirZWplKeEs

[palangi]

He is long. But he looks awkward moving and has very little feel for the game.

[Chinook]

Legend.

[Drom John]

Drom John (Macon, Georgia)

Do you have WARP projections for Davis Bertans and Livio Jean-Charles and other internationals who are allegedly coming over?


Kevin Pelton (3:46 PM)

Bertans looks like a fringe rotation player at this point. Jean-Charles hasn't projected as an NBA-caliber player since his ACL injury.

[SAGirl]

^ Thanks for sharing Drom!

[Mr. Body]

This sounds right. Bertans may possibly contribute here and there while LJC doesn't belong in this league.

[sinok]

Seems like he actually signed a contract with the spurs.
Well, he'll be in Austin for a while...

http://www.nba.com/spurs/san-antonio...-jean-charles/

[Chinook]

I've watched a couple of his Eurocup games recently and he ranged from unremarkable to terrible. Maybe the last one I watched was the worst game of the season, but it would have been harder to be worse, easily the worst player on the court.

He just isn't THAT great an athlete to overcome some severe lack of skills in the games I've watched. Small sample size, but he looks way, way behind the other kept draft & washers. Maybe he was still recovering from his injury, but his physical tools aren't that impressive.

He was getting wrecked on the glass against euro 4s, bad screens, turning down 3s, zero handle, ineffective footwork, turnovers, bad passes, bad drives, not strong enough or leveraged enough to defend bigs ...

I'll watch more games. But in all the euro picks that I was able to watch games over the years, LJC had the worst single game of all (Sanikidze, Mahinmi, De Colo, Hanga, Bertans, Javtokas, Milutinov, Dangubic, splitter, Scola).

Milutinov by contrast looks like he could play minutes right now, rotation minutes.

This jives with what we saw during the SL. Only thing that's positive is that he seemed to have a good sense of what the right play was, even though he wasn't always aware of what his role in that play was supposed to be.

[BackHome]

If the kid was some athletic freak then I can see us hanging on to him because of his potential. But he is not I know he did the team a solid by waiting to come over but I just don't see him developing to anything above D - League.

[CGD]

How's he looked in the d-league so far?

[SAGirl]

Not great.

Season	Tm	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2016-17	AUS	4	3	28.0	4.0	7.0	.571	0.0	0.0		4.0	7.0	.571	1.5	1.8	.857	2.5	5.8	8.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	2.5	3.3	9.5
Career		4	3	28.0	4.0	7.0	.571	0.0	0.0		4.0	7.0	.571	1.5	1.8	.857	2.5	5.8	8.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	2.5	3.3	9.5

[Maddog]

Well 1 for 2 there Mr. Pelton
Looking at the D League stats, he will probably never be an NBA player. Well, pre-injury seemed like a good pick.

[Chinook]

The offensive stats aren't horrible. 10/8/2 in 28 minutes is fine given how many people are ahead of him on offense. But he really needs more defensive stats. Dude has no chance in the league if he can't dominate on that end.

[cjw]

The offensive stats aren't horrible. 10/8/2 in 28 minutes is fine given how many people are ahead of him on offense. But he really needs more defensive stats. Dude has no chance in the league if he can't dominate on that end.

Outside of the turnover rate, those offensive stats are fine in a vacuum. But without any shooting range, he's got to be 80% of Tony Allen to get another call up.

[TheGreatYacht]

Chinook did the Pacers draft Bertans, or did RC tell them to pick him?

If that was all Larry Bird.... then enough is enough. RC has to quit drafting euro bums. He's clearly bad at it. Tony Parker was Presti's guy

LJC, Milutinov, etc etc. waste of picks

[Chinook]

Chinook did the Pacers draft Bertans, or did RC tell them to pick him?

If that was all Larry Bird.... then enough is enough. RC has to quit drafting euro bums. He's clearly bad at it. Tony Parker was Presti's guy

LJC, Milutinov, etc etc. waste of picks

RC told him to. Bertans was rumored to the Spurs at 29 for weeks before the draft. He would probably have been their pick had no trade gone down.

[TheGreatYacht]

RC told him to. Bertans was rumored to the Spurs at 29 for weeks before the draft. He would probably have been their pick had no trade gone down.

Gotcha thanks

[CGD]

Any one see him play in Austin? Any flashed or is he completely done for?

[duncan2150]

He was playing yesterday in french semi final with Asvel vs Strasbourg, had a nice game with 14 pts ( 7/12 ) 9 rebounds 3 assists 1 block and made the game winner with 4 sec left. Looks like he's in a better shape than a year ago.

[CGD]

He was playing yesterday in french semi final with Asvel vs Strasbourg, had a nice game with 14 pts ( 7/12 ) 9 rebounds 3 assists 1 block and made the game winner with 4 sec left. Looks like he's in a better shape than a year ago.

Nice find! Not holding my breath on this guy, but would be good to see him at summer league again. Spurs need cheap labor

[duncan2150]

I was surprised to see him, i agree with you i'm not sold on him now, all will depend on his physical.

[BackHome]

He actually played really good with the Toros this year he had a couple double double games. You can see a difference In that his spring is back and I was surprised he is a pretty good passer and his mid range was also good. If he continues I can actually see him making the roster next year.

[palangi]

He actually played really good with the Toros this year he had a couple double double games. You can see a difference In that his spring is back and I was surprised he is a pretty good passer and his mid range was also good. If he continues I can actually see him making the roster next year.

Can't pass up that mid range ... ha!

[BackHome]

Tell that to Green. Lol