Agreed. chuckers who puts up 20 plus a game on volume aren't hall of fame worthy. See stackhouse, antoine walker and so on and so forth.
Manu is a hall of famer. Points ain't everything. Winning is. See bill russell.
Why he wasn't 6th man of the Year more than once boggles my mind. He should have had the award every year
Agreed. chuckers who puts up 20 plus a game on volume aren't hall of fame worthy. See stackhouse, antoine walker and so on and so forth.
Manu is a hall of famer. Points ain't everything. Winning is. See bill russell.
Because he plays for the Spurs. Tim, Manu and Parker were never in an all-stars game together and yet Utah has 3 all-stars last year tells you the standing of Spurs players in the eyes of the NBA ECO system.
Erin Barry certainly agrees about TP’s penetration prowess...
Poor Brent.
yep, same with TD and DPOY
Manu didn't get the NBA accolades he should have gotten. That said, he should easily be first ballot HOF.
What a weak overall group for next year. Joe Johnson first ballot?? Really?? I'd of taken Rasheed way before someone like Joe Johnson.
I disagree a bit. I don't think Manu is/was undervalued or underappreciated. It's interesting that so many fans say this. It it was true, someone would be disagreeing. So I am disagreeing. I think Manu was appreciated but because he wasn't a starter he's seen as undervalued. It's known that as Manu goes so did the Spurs, for the most part. Even in 2014 Finals Manu was big time.
Poor Brent's refrigerator.
oh so then what i said was true
got it thanks
I think only Manu gets next year 1st Ballot based on that list.
I remember driving in Austin back in 2004 listening to that game early in the season where Tim and Tony were out and it was basically Manu vs 4 HOFers: Shaq, Kobe, Payton and Malone. And he carried a goddamn JV team for nearly the whole game before running out of gas in 2OT. My favorite regular season game ever.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...311060SAS.html
2023 would be Wade, Nowitzki and our boy Tony. The 1st two are locked, and Tony is the best player ever to come out from France with 4 years NBA les, Finals MVP, 6x NBA All Star. His international accolades is not like Manu’s Olypic gold, but Tony made some noise at FIBA. I think Tony will also be 1st ballot.
You're making a case for Carmelo Anthony to not be in the HOF, tbh.
I don’t know. Lakers are giving free rides to these stats padding stars. But for sure Melo is a HOF with his Olympic golds plus scoring leader (see TMac).
Man, I hate LeSoft getting another ring, getting a close ring count to Timmy’s, and then talks of him in the GOAT status with his bought rings, as much as I hate Harden getting a ring.
Manu and Chauncey are probably going to headline... Shawn Marion I think is eligible as well... we'll see...
Why not Sheed before Billups? I mean the bad boy image is really hurting the likes of Sheed, Laimbeer.
How about Paul Silas? Why hasn’t he made it?
I dont think melo should be in the hall of fame.
If you look at counting stats only. If you look at overall impact, Manu is definitely a first ballot HoF even if you consider just his NBA career. The guy popularized the most influential move in NBA history.
Did Yao make it as a first ballot? If so, Manu being a first ballot too is undeniable.
Tony should be a shoe-in, tbh. His NBA resume is really more decorated than Manu.
Manu and TP are both 1st Ballot tbh..
I agree
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