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Not saying much when the competish is Mills and Forbes. And even then, that's cos Murray is out injured.
I honestly think White has way higher ceiling than Hill, way higher. Easily he is the best defensive guy out there now and still improving. His confidence with finding his shots will just get better. He’s pushing the tempo in transition offense, the reason I guess he fights for rebounds, albeit competing with Poeltl on one possession that lost the ball. But in retrospect I now understand why the focus on rebounding, to force the transition offense. I like this guy a lot and his hard work is showing dividends.
Not saying much when the competish is Mills and Forbes. And even then, that's cos Murray is out injured.
I liked George Hill, but never got why Spurs fans liked him so much. White is better at passing and defending this early on in his career than Hill was that early in his career. His ceiling is higher than Hill's if he develops a consistent three point shot and starts finishing better near the basket.
Currently, Hill has a career 38 3FG to 34 3FG for White; and people thought that was a weakness in GH's game, tbh.
Also, I just think Hill is/was a more proficient scorer. He came out of college as a four-year player when few were that seasoned. We knew he was polished already. White may or may not get there; for now, he's a poor man's George Hill though.
Pretty impressed w White lately. Now that he's not playing like a scared rabbit anymore. Used to think he was pitiful.
idk, but he will be better than Joseph, though I think Brogdon would be a guy I'd like to compare because I believe they're close at the game level
White is better than George Hill.
He's bigger, better handles, better court vision and can shoot better.
Since Joseph was mentioned, yes, he's better that him too.
Longer. better handles better court vision and can shoot better.
Why did White dropped to the Spurs in the draft?
Wins are starting to come bc defense is improving. Defense is improving bc we finally have a big/wing/guard defender. Poeltl/Bertans/White
Agree. White got NBA All-Defensive potential. The guy is defending players like Harden and Lou Williams well. Those are All-Stars, Harden is the MVP matter of fact. Really curious how he will do against Kyrie. Since the Denver game he has found some aggression in his game and it only makes him better. I think he will be better than Hill was
He is a 24 year old rookie who play most of his varsity time in the division II of NCAA.
Um, the team would have one less championship with Hill instead of TP. Anyone asking for that move was an idiot plain and simple.
Context: Tony was coming off an injury plagued season and put up some of the worst numbers of his career (during his physical peak) while Hill was overachieving and some people (falsely) thought he had all-star potential.
I think the front-office made the right decision and if White can become a solid pro like Hill that is a good thing. I do think his bigger frame, superior handles, better passing and more consistent (at a similar age) defense makes the one - to - one comparison inaccurate.
Also, White is a far more natural PG while Hill (like Forbes & Mills) is a SG trapped in a PG's body.
He didn't get a scholarship in a division I school. He eventually got into a division I school but played only one year.
So his path to success hasn't been traditional. He's a late bloomer.
Being a late bloomer, it is taking a while for his body to become strong enough for higher level play. I think with more weight and strength (like Forbes), he's going to be a very good player.
Also, people who are late bloomers tend to be a lot smarter than average.
Hill also took a while in college but he made progress in the years he was as a Spur. I think his peak was when he was in Indiana, that's where he finally learned how to shoot the 3.
White is actually a very good 3 point shooter, what surprises me is how good he has become on defense. He's got uncanny quickness and anticipation. Watch his steals, it's like, how did he figure out to get where he's at so quickly? It's just uncanny.
I mean 6 steals against Denver? How does that happen?
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Most were assuming they could get a top 5 pick for TP at that time.
I remember when you had solid takes on here. LOL, JK, I don't remember.
Nobody knew who Hill was coming out of IUPUI, and certainly no one had great expectations for Hill coming from such a small school.
He only played one year at the D1 level, so most teams weren’t sure what he was.
+1
his stock rised during predraft workouts, scrimmage .... 2-3 weeks before the draft he was just a mid/late second rounder.
White, 6 steals in Denver
I think White could be even better than I expected. I didn't think he'd be a defensive plus, certainly not this early. I knew his court vision was surprisingly good. His scoring will come around.
Let that sink in for everyone, he played 3 years in Division II.
In contrast, Bryn Forbes (who was not drafted) played 4 years in Division I.
Are you saying that's good or bad? He grew five inches in college. He grew two inches his last year of high school.
I'm saying how remarkable his growth has been.
Agree. I do think he's always had a good knack for basketball. He's the rare player who grew into an NBA body as he went.
I wouldn't say White is longer. George Hill has a 7 foot wingspan, White only has a 6'7" wingspan.
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