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    There's a nationwide epidemic, an economic collapse and civil unrest....

    Even his culture war is failing because no one believes Joe Biden is anything other than a moderate who is a likable guy.

    Trump has nothing to run on... and Nancy Pelosi holds all the cards in terms of anymore bailouts.

    Trump looks like he's starting to lose his fighting spirit too.

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    It’s gonna really be a kick in the when he wins tbh.

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    Trump still has likely low turnout in November on his side so don't act like he's done for.

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    Trump still has likely low turnout in November on his side so don't act like he's done for.
    Yeah... plus the disenfrachising machine will be running full swing, as we've seen last week.

    However, if Joe does win, I'm looking forward to his introduction where he raises from his basement on a small platform, with smokes and lights... think The Undertaker intro in WWE.

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    Trump could run on a platform of vengeance against main stream media (whatever the that is) and be just fine

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    6 new battleground polls released today and Trump is down in all of them.

    The key ones for me are Arizona (Down 7) and Florida. (Down 6)

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

    Big ouch.

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    Trump will win.

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    Base on what?

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    6 new battleground polls released today and Trump is down in all of them.

    The key ones for me are Arizona (Down 7) and Florida. (Down 6)

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

    Big ouch.

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    Yeah... plus the disenfrachising machine will be running full swing, as we've seen last week.

    However, if Joe does win, I'm looking forward to his introduction where he raises from his basement on a small platform, with smokes and lights... think The Undertaker intro in WWE.
    By then he might need an Undertaker

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    so average lead of 5.4% in that sample group. about half of biden's current RCP average lead

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    By then he might need an Undertaker
    touche

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    You’re the second poster to bring 2016 polling today.

    ...but 2016 is not an argument anyone should be making.

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    Some company calls/text me on the phone, I'm not admitting I am voting Trump.

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    Some company calls/text me on the phone, I'm not admitting I am voting Trump.
    But you’ll show up in person and flash your ID to do it?

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    But you’ll show up in person and flash your ID to do it?
    I do believe we might reach a point where good men are judged by the politicians they "probably voted for". i.e. Bobby Bowden in West Virginia.

    Yes, I think user data in the hands of a corporation is more troublesome today. In 2016 I had a MAGA hat in my car window alongside Polska sticker here in SoCal. Up until the last 2 weeks of the election. Then I didn't want damage to my car. But '16 was an upset. Repeating is always tougher and opposition will be more fierce.

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    so average lead of 5.4% in that sample group. about half of biden's current RCP average lead
    Theyre also all national polls, which I don’t understand why people care about. At no point in 2016 did Hillary have polling leads in states like Florida or North Carolina that Biden currently has (outside of polls conducted by ty pollsters who fivethirtyeight ignores), both states were polled as toss ups the entire time.

    Not saying the race is over but Trump is definitely in worse shape now than he was 4 years ago. Biden sucks but he isn’t as universally disliked as Hillary was and the polls were never this bad for Trump in 2016.

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    Northern states will decide the 2020 election. Economically worse but riots challenged safety.

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    Michigan and Wisconsin were also by and large ignored by pollsters in 2016. Pollsters aren’t going to just repeat the same ups from 4 years ago , they’re already doing way more polling in those states and likely studied how they ed up last time.

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    Theyre also all national polls, which I don’t understand why people care about. At no point in 2016 did Hillary have polling leads in states like Florida or North Carolina that Biden currently has (outside of polls conducted by ty pollsters who fivethirtyeight ignores), both states were polled as toss ups the entire time.

    Not saying the race is over but Trump is definitely in worse shape now than he was 4 years ago. Biden sucks but he isn’t as universally disliked as Hillary was and the polls were never this bad for Trump in 2016.
    this is true, but the national polls and popular vote still tend to successfully indicate overall likelihood to win. and the bigger the national vote lead is, the less likely that it is so oddly distributed among the states that you aren't going to get enough electoral votes

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    in 2016 there was not a culture war. Trump was the outsider, anti-Establishment.

    The parties will represent in more classic form in 2020

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    in 2016 there was not a culture war. Trump was the outsider, anti-Establishment.

    The parties will represent in more classic form in 2020
    They’ll also return to their classic form because after 4 years it’s obvious Trump is a globalist charlatan who couldn’t give two s about bringing manufacturing jobs back to the Midwest.

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    They’ll also return to their classic form because after 4 years it’s obvious Trump is a globalist charlatan who couldn’t give two s about bringing manufacturing jobs back to the Midwest.
    STEM visa ban. Time for them to download NetBeans.

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    STEM visa ban. Time for them to download NetBeans.
    Yeah feel free to explain to me how banning STEM visas is going to bring middle class manufacturing jobs back to the US.

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    Trump still has likely low turnout in November on his side so don't act like he's done for.
    I'm not counting out the fat orange

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