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And it's not like I'm saying they'll "ask him nicely." One can only imagine how much dirt they have on him.
He doesn't get beaten if he doesn't even run.
The GOP doesn't want him to run, and it's for the exact reasons you guys have already brought up. He's a poison pill.
And it's not like I'm saying they'll "ask him nicely." One can only imagine how much dirt they have on him.
I think Trump has no choice but to run. His criminal and civil jeopardy is so great that the best and only way to avoid or at least mitigate/delay it is to be president again.
And Trump could rape his grandchild on stage during one of his rallies and still have support of half the Republican party. Darrin has proved that.
Not if he's promised a pardon in exchange for his endorsement. He has a better chance at getting that than of winning the Presidency.
"I will pardon Trump from all pending investigations and prevent future ones" is probably a top-five effective campaign message for the next Republican candidate.
It looks like the do ent case is moving way too fast for public citizen Trump to avoid prison before November 2024. I can't see his waiting passively for DeSantis to win while he could still run for president from behind bars.
Will work in the primaries for sure.
I still don't think he'll get prison but even if that was imminent, he'd probably just hide out in Russia.
And still run for president from there.
So...we're looking at a Biden/Coon vs Trump/Career suicide and a pitiful 3rd party candidate in 2024.
Gonna abstain again. Dems gonna win. Will check back in in a few years but expect to see the same 3-5 people doing the same thing they've done habitually for a quarter century. Thank goodness you guys keep this place going. Great work.
Trump supporters are delusional to the extreme but maybe not that depraved. But Trump has given them an out for any and every situation, no matter how bad. Just lie. Lie and lie and lie some more until you even believe the lies. Look at Roger Stone. Caught on video. He goes straight to the "uh well the media manipulated the audio" lie. It's the blueprint for everything that casts him in a bad light.
There's nothing his followers can be phased by. Anything negative and it's a liberal witch hunt. Any clear and obvious sin, and they'll say it was staged. Any lie to cover up a crime, and they'll believe it. To the bitter end.
It's the ultimate brainwash. It's amazing really.
Racist right wing jackass confirmed. Thanks for checking in. Great stuff.
I think making whether or not Trump gets a pardon an issue in 2024 would be an insanely stupid thing for the GOP candidate (assuming it's not Trump) to do.
Whatever dirt the GOP establishment has on Trump, it hasn't stopped him from sabotaging several key races this year by endorsing the worst possible candidates.
I shared this with my Cali Conservestives
who is going to be the one to release such dirt? liz cheney? lincoln project?
Based on what? That message wouldn't lose any voters on the right, and stands to gain a lot from the MAGA bloc who might otherwise see the GOP candidate as a RINO or Trump enemy and stay home in 2024.
It's certainly not going to change anyone's vote on the left.
If it came to that I would expect an anonymous leak followed by a full court press from FOX News, Mitch McConnell, and other mainstream Republicans to denounce whatever activity they reveal. Sort of like you saw for like 6 hours after Jan 6.
But it would never come to that because Trump would bend the knee.
And I think they'll go the bribery route before the blackmail route.
Independents are a substantial group.
i doubt it would last. i think you underestimate the pull trump has on their base
They're also hard to define because plenty of straight ticket voters on both sides identify as "independent." And they have a 50/50 interest in Trump being charged. I doubt this is an issue that true independents will be swayed by.
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What wouldn't last? I'm not talking about an embarrassing pic here, we're talking crimes and legal consequences. That's the threat. And Trump will bend the knee before letting that happen.
Wouldn't take many. All that would be needed is to continue the anti-Trump sentiment among independents from 2020.
What's worse than what he's currently facing?
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