Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 135
  1. #26
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    9,605
    and i'd be fine with procida at #25. he'd be a great stash pick.

  2. #27
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    9,605


    JWill isn’t slow what you probably saw is when he has the ball and he’s in control of his defender using his bag of hesis, pacing, and fakes. It’s the same way Lonnie stopped playing 100 mph because that’s not how NBA basketball is played… yet some of yall want that freak athlete with no style or substance or smarts.
    yeah, i don't get the freak athlete obsession. of course, if you can find a giannis, that's a no-brainer but there are quite a few examples of so-called 'slower' players having huge success in the NBA.

  3. #28
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    9,605
    Provocative board. I love seeing AJ Griffin back at 31.

    I can see Procida getting tagged at 20. The interest in TyTy really makes you think.

    Our board hasn't paid much attention yet to Terquavion Smith or Dalen Terry but we should.
    me too. i have no interest in AJ and it does appear that the smith and terry interest is legit. and lol at the dramatic fall of baldwin. the dude was a pre-season mock draft lottery pick. now, he might even opt to go back to college.

  4. #29
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    7,878
    Keegan Murray gives me some Thomas Robinson vibes, and that gives me pause

  5. #30
    Veteran Degoat's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    3,698
    Keegan Murray gives me some Thomas Robinson vibes, and that gives me pause
    Thats kinda how I feel about Sochan and Eason lol big wings in college are hard to evaluate tbh because they should dominate with the them being bigger than others

  6. #31
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    7,878
    Like Keegan, Thomas Robinson won or was a finalist for all the college awards, heavily relied on his post game, and also left as a junior. Seemed like solid pick at 5 in the Anthony Davis draft. And he just couldn’t put it together in the pros.

  7. #32
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,113
    They should absolutely consider using a first on a PG. They need depth, and Jones will be a free agent next year. Tre or DJM could get injured even. As I said before, I just want that PG to be a defensive player. And none of this switchable . They need someone who can actually guard the position. It's obviously a plus if they can also guard up. But being able to hide Murray and Johnson on defense going forward is a necessity if this team is going to beat anybody.
    I'm trying to make sense of this. You want to draft a PG who is a defensive player and who can guard point guards but not switchable, but it would allow us to hid DJM on defense, because...he's a bad defensive player? Am I misinterpreting you?

  8. #33
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,113
    Like Keegan, Thomas Robinson won or was a finalist for all the college awards, heavily relied on his post game, and also left as a junior. Seemed like solid pick at 5 in the Anthony Davis draft. And he just couldn’t put it together in the pros.
    These are good things to consider. As well for Johnny Davis, whom I like as a pick in the hopes that he translates, but he's another one who might not.

  9. #34
    Veteran K...'s Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    8,146
    I'm trying to make sense of this. You want to draft a PG who is a defensive player and who can guard point guards but not switchable, but it would allow us to hid DJM on defense, because...he's a bad defensive player? Am I misinterpreting you?
    Murray is a good defender but more valuable as the offensive leader. A defensive guard lets him conserve energy, remember this team collapsing late in games? If murray is a star this helps. Not sure if chinook wants to use pick 9 on such player, but any of the final 3 would be fine.

    Tre jones is weird. He's not good enough to plan as a starter, but good enough to require a mid level contract. Its really up to him to decide if he's a starter in this league.

  10. #35
    Veteran R. DeMurre's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    3,581
    Like Keegan, Thomas Robinson won or was a finalist for all the college awards, heavily relied on his post game, and also left as a junior. Seemed like solid pick at 5 in the Anthony Davis draft. And he just couldn’t put it together in the pros.

    There's a pretty huge gap in terms of advanced & other stats.

    Keegan Murray:
    ORtg: 134.6
    DRtg: 96.8
    Net rating: +37.8
    BPM: 15.7 (Best on his team. Second best was Kris Murray at +9.1)
    2pt%: 62.1%
    3pt FGM: 66

    Thomas Robinson:
    ORtg: 109.8
    DRtg: 84.6
    Net rating: +25.2
    BPM: 8.8 (Second best on team. #1 was Jeff Withey at +11.5)
    2pt%: 50.5%
    3pts FGM: 7

  11. #36
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    25,515
    Keegan Murray gives me some Thomas Robinson vibes, and that gives me pause
    Could be. But the issue with Robinson was that he had no real basketball skills nor basketball IQ. He overpowered with strength and athleticism. He could not shoot. Keegan seems to understand the game much better and is an outside shooter.

  12. #37
    Veteran John B's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Post Count
    10,727
    while reading this, i found myself drifting farther away from the actual text about the potential picks and focusing on one constant-the presence of manu at the combines, and in such an intimate level. my hope is that manu's interest in the spurs has a much longer life span than duncan's because the future of the spurs hinges upon keeping alive that culture which resulted in five les. it's encouraging to see how deeply involved he is at this time.
    I’m getting the same vibes that Manu will be working even more with the development of these youngsters. Arguably he had a strong influence on Lonnie getting more confident on his game and being more assertive. While Spurs’ fallout on Samanic could have Manu putting more insights on the prospects’ maturity and character.

    That said, I’m leaning on Sochan at 9. He has that Diaw-esque playmaking at PF position and the needed height and defense at that 4 position. Of course if Keegan is available, he’s the pick. Procida could be a good stash-candidate at 25 (with Manu inquiring about his contracts). I’m hoping they offer that 20th with Poeltl to get Mark Williams for that on-man defense. And at the end of the day, I want them to address the lack of a go-to scorer, if through this draft or FA. I like Davis a lot on this draft. 20 and 25 to get him? There’s just too many creative ways on this draft. It’s exciting what Spurs “savvy” GM would do.

  13. #38
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    25,515
    There's a pretty huge gap in terms of advanced & other stats.

    Keegan Murray:
    ORtg: 134.6
    DRtg: 96.8
    Net rating: +37.8
    BPM: 15.7 (Best on his team. Second best was Kris Murray at +9.1)
    2pt%: 62.1%
    3pt FGM: 66

    Thomas Robinson:
    ORtg: 109.8
    DRtg: 84.6
    Net rating: +25.2
    BPM: 8.8 (Second best on team. #1 was Jeff Withey at +11.5)
    2pt%: 50.5%
    3pts FGM: 7
    Thomas Robinson was better in advanced defensive stats. Everywhere else Keegan is better, usually far, far better. Some of his stats are kind of unbelievable, to be honest. Also, one thing that popped out is that Keegan only had 1.3 turnovers and 2.1 fouls per 36 minutes, which seems absurd considering his offensive load.

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...homas-robinson

  14. #39
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    30,991
    I'm trying to make sense of this. You want to draft a PG who is a defensive player and who can guard point guards but not switchable, but it would allow us to hid DJM on defense, because...he's a bad defensive player? Am I misinterpreting you?
    Murray does need to be hidden against the best offensive guards. He's a good pick-pocket, but he's always struggled stopping guards from scoring on him. The team needs someone who can do that job so that Murray can do the things he's elite at on that end. Is DJM Forbes? No, obviously not. Is he good enough to be your shutdown cornerback? Not if the Spurs want to win games.

    The Spurs need one-on-one defenders who can directly guard the best players. That's more important than being switchable. If some 6-6 guy can guard PGs at an elite level while also being able to check wings (think prime LDN), that's great. But they have enough connective tissue on defense with Murray, Vassell and Poeltl and a refreshing lack of liabilities for the most part. They need bones to give that tissue structure like they had back in 2017-2018. They need defensive specialists rather than another generalist

  15. #40
    Dyna5ty BatManu20's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    34,181
    Like Keegan, Thomas Robinson won or was a finalist for all the college awards, heavily relied on his post game, and also left as a junior. Seemed like solid pick at 5 in the Anthony Davis draft. And he just couldn’t put it together in the pros.
    Except Keegan Murray was one of the best 3-point shooters in CBB last season, is a much better passer, and seems to have a higher bball IQ than Thomas ever did. Thomas was the better athlete, but they’re not that similar of players imo.

    I don’t think Murray will ever be a star, but I predict him to be a very solid player at the next level.

  16. #41
    Believe. paperboy77's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    1,567
    I think if Murray falls to #9, there’s no question he should and will be the pick. The question is how likely that is to happen.
    Even if he’s there at 7 or 6 they should trade to grab him.

  17. #42
    Chopper Ed Helicopter Jones's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    14,006
    Amazing how Williams has climbed based on the combine.

    I guess if he's the pick, just don't submit the wrong Jalen/Jaylin Williams name for Adam to announce.




    That wingspan and standing reach makes him a lot bigger than his height. That's crazy.

  18. #43
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,113
    So if they pick Jalen Williams, I'm assuming they see him as a SF, otherwise he would be the 2 guard and Keldon finally slides down to the SF position. Either way with Jalen (or Mathurin or Davis), there will be some juggling/trading that would need to happen at some point, I imagine. Vassell needs minutes and I'm sure they'd want to keep feeding Primo.

    In this scenario, I'm thinking aloud here, then perhaps you definitely don't resign Lonnie Walker, and then you try to package Josh Richardson along with some of the later picks to see what that can get you, ideally at power forward?

  19. #44
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    8,348
    I am not sure we can’t get him latter on he is good offense but on defense he kinda gets beat easily by his man and he has a hard time fighting under screens.

  20. #45
    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    26,347
    The Spurs are going to draft Whodat Whatdafuk and you will like it!

  21. #46
    Believe. PhantomDashCam's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    2,326

  22. #47
    Spurs Sage Russ's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    9,120
    I guess if he's the pick, just don't submit the wrong Jalen/Jaylin Williams name for Adam to announce.
    That would be hilarious.

    The Astros slugger Yordan Alvarez was apparently traded by the Dodgers because they thought they were trading away a different (Yadier?) Alvarez.

  23. #48
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    30,991
    Marshon vs Dillon Brooks

  24. #49
    Veteran John B's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Post Count
    10,727
    Almost losing Keldon at 29 because Samanic mesmerized scouts at the Combine

  25. #50
    Veteran Chomag's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Post Count
    8,543
    The Spurs are going to draft Whodat Whatdafuk and you will like it!
    You son ofa I'm in!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •