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    If a player can get the supermax on a contract year without playing do you truly think he'll care to try hard after he gets it

    Still don't know why people even consider giving the supermax to a player coming off a year layoff, if this was in the NFL that wouldn't even be in question.

    This is a major point for me. If he's sitting out so that he doesn't risk losing a Supermax offer, that is one thing, but if he does get the Supermax, he can't subsequently sit out whole seasons with soreness. He's going to have to learn to play through it.

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    This is a major point for me. If he's sitting out so that he doesn't risk losing a Supermax offer, that is one thing, but if he does get the Supermax, he can't subsequently sit out whole seasons with soreness. He's going to have to learn to play through it.
    If I'm the spurs I don't give him the supermax this summer. What he pulled this year was bush league. Make him earn the Supermax next season. If he is still able to play at an MVP level he will make an all-nba team and qualify for it it again. Spurs can then offer it to him during FA. If he still walks after that then that's a risk you take.

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    det salt in the wound

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    hmmm all signs keep pointing to him not coming back this season.
    heh his injury is no longer listed as quad tendinopathy... but "return from injury management"...

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    To be fair, Woj reported the following: "San Antonio star Kawhi Leonard plans to resume working with the team at the Spurs' practice facility this week -- with hopes of returning by late March, league sources told ESPN."

    That was back on Feb. 26th. He was told that Kawhi was aiming for late March. So....nothing unexpected has really happened. If he doesn't return sometime in March, then you have to believe he's done.

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    To be fair, Woj reported the following: "San Antonio star Kawhi Leonard plans to resume working with the team at the Spurs' practice facility this week -- with hopes of returning by late March, league sources told ESPN."

    That was back on Feb. 26th. He was told that Kawhi was aiming for late March. So....nothing unexpected has really happened. If he doesn't return sometime in March, then you have to believe he's done.
    Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...

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    Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...
    I wouldn't believe anything that Wojs say about this. He's not getting it from the team or Kawhi's camp. Just BS.

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    You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

    It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.
    dat argument is bs tbh.. Kawhi has been cleared by Spurs doctors and they are the most conservatives in business.. it's on Kawhi to trust his doctors or Spurs doctors it is 100% on him, so it is a player whim

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    I wouldn't believe anything that Wojs say about this. He's not getting it from the team or Kawhi's camp. Just BS.
    Exactly. My money is on Tony.

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    Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...
    Kiwi said he’s working out with the support staff, no teammates.

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    Spurs Expected To Offer Designed Veteran Player Extension To Kawhi Leonard
    You type that as if it is a headline? Is it an article? Do you have a link?
    Designed veteran cut
    In my opinion, Kawhi does have a serious Design flaw.

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    Kiwi said he’s working out with the support staff, no teammates.
    Right. Maybe. A staff is like a large cane - right?

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    Right. Maybe. A staff is like a large cane - right?

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    One of the players, I can't recall who, said Kiwi was practicing with the old guys... which I assumed to be Bonner and the coaching and support staff... can't be real intense workouts if you don't have youngins like Derrick White there, or BP3, who doesn't really play and has to do workouts with the staff to stay in game shape himself.

    I thought at the time, he wasn't going all out in those 3 on 3, it was just a rehearsal, getting to his spots, shooting on the move that kind of stuff, maybe someone puts a hand up to guard you, but really mild. It wasn't like a team scrimmage with teammates really going at each other... it just put in context the kind of intensity that his 3 on 3 have. And as far as the teammates themselves, I am thinking the leaks to the media didn't jive with what they were hearing from Pop, so they wanted to clear things with Kiwi personally...

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    One of the players, I can't recall who, said Kiwi was practicing with the old guys... which I assumed to be Bonner and the coaching and support staff... can't be real intense workouts if you don't have youngins like Derrick White there, or BP3, who doesn't really play and has to do workouts with the staff to stay in game shape himself.

    I thought at the time, he wasn't going all out in those 3 on 3, it was just a rehearsal, getting to his spots, shooting on the move that kind of stuff, maybe someone puts a hand up to guard you, but really mild. It wasn't like a team scrimmage with teammates really going at each other... it just put in context the kind of intensity that his 3 on 3 have. And as far as the teammates themselves, I am thinking the leaks to the media didn't jive with what they were hearing from Pop, so they wanted to clear things with Kiwi personally...
    That has more than a slight hint of locker room rebellion or Pop's having lost the team in it. I am going to stop calling this The Lost Season and start calling it The Murky Season. Like a gothic novel.

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    It’s a shame he won’t give it a try, especially with the Curry news.

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    This is getting so old...

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    This is getting so old...
    Getting?

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    I don't want him back this year at this point. I think the main reason they're playing like they are is because the team finally stopped waiting on him. They've had a psychological gimp for most of the year, thanks to the waffling that's occurred in this situation.

    And if he came back it would disrupt the battle-hardened, calloused psyche they've finally cultivated.

    Not to mention, I think if LA can will these guys to 50 wins and the 3 or 4 seed, he'll be able to overcome the reputation many of his more critical fans gave him. He'll in essence get Spur-for-Life status, which imo, he's already earned. He's gutted out and hearted out this year for a fan base that was largely dismissive of him. I hope that stops after this srason.

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    I hate Dad Killer as much as anybody, but comparing Kawhi to him is lunacy, tbh..

    Kawherrick Rose is much more appropriate..
    People compare Kawhi to Jordan based on his style of play and physical features, not necessarily in terms of greatness or durability.

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    People compare Kawhi to Jordan based on his style of play and physical features, not necessarily in terms of greatness or durability.
    No one has ever done what you just stated

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    No one has ever done what you just stated
    Yeah they have. For example, it's been noted that they have a similar turnaround jumper/midrange game (style of play) and abnormally large hands (physical features).

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    Yeah they have. For example, it's been noted that they have a similar turnaround jumper/midrange game (style of play) and abnormally large hands (physical features).
    Lolololololololololo.....

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    Damn that's something new ...


    At this moment spurs players can ignore it and just play but when the season will end it's a tough decision if to offer Leonard a supermax. Players already questioning his at ude to stay off the team.

    That's not a leader mentality from Kawhi now. How can you trust the guy who is vanishing and disconnecting with team?

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