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Somebody voted for Joe in the primaries.
I don't put stock in "visible" TV-friendly enthusiasm. Bernie Sanders supposedly had the most enthusiastic following of any candidate and Biden still beat him. Buttigeig had supporters doing choreographed flash mobs and barely got more votes than Klobuchar. Hillary had an enthusiastic coastal/city following and lost every single swing state. It's not important in this election for Biden to have a band of vocal enthusiasts, who, in my opinion, typically do nothing to elevate the appeal of the candidate for the average voter.
Last edited by Spurminator; 04-11-2020 at 09:08 PM.
Somebody voted for Joe in the primaries.
Including in the primaries. She lost quite a few key states to Sanders during the primaries including Michigan and Wisconsin most of all.
Biden’s greatest appeal is that he will win swing votes. If he tries to appease Sanders’ young voters with student debt cancellation and free everything then he will lose. The youth vote is the most unreliable and the least important in this general election. It couldn’t even keep Sanders compe ive after Super Tuesday I in the dem primary. It won’t win the general election if it costs older swing voters.
Perhaps not. I have my doubts that mitigation will tamp down COVID-19 enough to make people feel safe on election day. Will unenthusiastic Democrats and the older voters Biden is counting on get him to 270 first when it's still dangerous to congregate in public?
If the young aren't motivated enough to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump keep ing them.
if young voters are necessary to beat Trump, spitting and ting on them might not be the best way to get them to go along.
If they need their asses kissed to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump and the GOP them for the rest of their lives.
So much the worse for us all if that happens.
If it does happen, there should be blame left over for nominating such a weak candidate as Joe Biden. Maybe running the "most electable" centrist isn't such a great strategy.
They get ed either way, tbh... just a matter if they even care picking whose flaccid they're getting.
Last edited by ElNono; 04-11-2020 at 10:01 PM. Reason: typo
They didn't vote for Bernie either, so them for that too.
Young people don't vote so much. We knew this already.
Hate to break it to you but Obama was a centrist.
According to Will Hunting Biden doesn't need them? Say 15-20% of them stay home Biden can still win it.
You seem to be of the mind Bernie is a stronger candidate than Biden but it doesn't show up in reality. If say Bernie were to be the nominee, he'd have the same problem Biden has but in reversed.
Maybe making blanket statements like democratic voters are the establishment and calling Castro his bestie is not such a great idea.
Biden and Bernie are both pretty defective. Let's just leave it at that.
And they wonder why their asses aren't kissed.
And we’re going to go to far far left to appease the most unreliable voters?
Oh definitely, but he didn't run as one.
What policies was he pushing in the campaign that weren’t centrist?
Bernie Sanders policies were morenpopular with Republicans than you might think. In times of political realignment like the present, the left-right dichotomy means less than it previously did.
But nobody voted for Bernie when it came down to it.
Ran as one in 2012 and still got over 300+ EC votes.
Holding telecoms legally accountable for warrantless mass surveillance, same for torture and closing Gitmo. Reforming healthcare certainly wasn't a centrist plank in 2008.
DMX7: it's fair to point out Obama's rhetoric was more progressive than he and his policies, but to concede that is basically to grant that Obama was a deceptive campaigner.
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I don’t think a lot of his big policy ideas were even that popular with democrats. For example, Medicare for all was a disaster with unionized workers who have fought like for strong private insurance.
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