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    There has been no further momentum to this rumour. Time to put it to rest.
    That's kinda how rhe Spurs operate though. They don't leak . No one knew about the Kawhi/Demar trade until it happened

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    There has been no further momentum to this rumour. Time to put it to rest.
    for once i agree with you

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    Now that free agency is over, that’s not the right way to look at Aminu and Hutchinson. They are there just for salary matching purposes and don’t have any money due to them after this year.

    Even better, they are assets to the Raptors to either use to flip to improve the roster, or to act as a third team in trades.
    If not traded, the Spurs are likely to waive them. This is $22+M (or 3+M more than Dragic) in money for next season the Raptors would be taking on, essentially for two young players who's value is probably commensurate to something like an early 2nd.

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    for once i agree with you
    only once?

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    That's kinda how rhe Spurs operate though. They don't leak . No one knew about the Kawhi/Demar trade until it happened

    I think that happened quickly. Usually you get 'advanced talks' leak.

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    That's kinda how rhe Spurs operate though. They don't leak . No one knew about the Kawhi/Demar trade until it happened
    By that logic, they're trading for EVERYONE.

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    If not traded, the Spurs are likely to waive them. This is $22+M (or 3+M more than Dragic) in money for next season the Raptors would be taking on, essentially for two young players who's value is probably commensurate to something like an early 2nd.
    We agree they’re around purely for trade matching purposes. And it’s hard to waste two roster spots out of 15 on them. I think Hutchinson gets dumped first as his contract isn’t as big a number = not as important to help with trade matching.

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    Hopefully we get some movement now!

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    Damn! No way Portland does that trade, but, that would be amazing for the Spurs if it happened. It also elevates Philly.
    I am holding onto a thread of hope that the Spurs pull some sort of trade off soon. False hope is still hope, ya know.

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    I wouldn't do that trade. Ugly...

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    Interesting idea. We're giving up Murray, White, Poetl and two first round picks for Simmons and McCollum. Both those guys have their flaws, but I'm not sure the Spurs draft anything better with those two picks. Murray and White also have their flaws, with White's "flaw" being his propensity to get injured. I suppose Eubanks and the Aussie keep us solid enough at the center spot.

    The only reason I'd say this has any credence is the comment about Pop trying to keep the Spurs relevant. My concern is that we've tried the plan where we have a team with two flawed stars surrounded by role players, and it didn't work so well with DeRozan and Aldridge. Not sure this iteration makes us any better than that...a 35-40 win team battling for the 8 spot. Giving up those two first round picks says we'd be willing to sacrifice the future to stay mediocre.
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    If you ship out White and Murray added to losing Demar, who is the floor leader for the Spurs? Last season it was either DJ or DD and to a lesser extent White. Does Simmons become the leader? Really? CJ maybe by default as the vet. I think that is an intangible that should be considered as well.

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    Interesting idea. We're giving up Murray, White, Poetl and two first round picks for Simmons and McCollum. Both those guys have their flaws, but I'm not sure the Spurs draft anything better with those two picks. Murray and White also have their flaws, with White's "flaw" being his propensity to get injured. I suppose Eubanks and the Aussie keep us solid enough at the center spot.

    The only reason I'd say this has any credence is the comment about Pop trying to keep the Spurs relevant. My concern is that we've tried the plan where we have a team with two flawed stars surrounded by role players, and it didn't work so well with DeRozan and Aldridge. Not sure this iteration makes us any better than that...a 35-40 win team battling for the 8 spot. Giving up those two first round picks says we'd be willing to sacrifice the future to stay mediocre.
    We'd still have Thad as a small ball 5 or as a trade asset for a different 5 if we wanted to choose that route.

    Personally, I think Portland balks (especially after acquiring Nance) but, from our perspective I think this makes us a playoff team and possibly a top 6 seed.

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    I wouldn't love it

    I wouldn't hate it either.

    Ben Simmons still relatively young (25yrs) could give us a lot of decent years.
    CJ is 29yrs old which is pretty much the age we got Derozan.

    It would be similar to another Derozan, Aldridge pairing like someone else mentioned but younger.

    at best we get 8th/7th seed.

    What would our SL be?

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    A better iteration would be . . .

    76ers: Lillard, Young

    Trail Blazers: Murray, White, Poeltl, multiple 76ers 1sts, Spurs 1st

    Spurs: Simmons, McCollum

    Johnson/Samanic or Aminu
    McDermott/Vassell
    Collins (eventually)/Eubanks or Landale
    McCollum/Forbes/Walker IV
    Simmons/McCollum

    Jones, Hutchinson, Primo, Wieskamp

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    A better iteration would be . . .

    76ers: Lillard, Young

    Trail Blazers: Murray, White, Poeltl, multiple 76ers 1sts, Spurs 1st

    Spurs: Simmons, McCollum

    Johnson/Samanic or Aminu
    McDermott/Vassell
    Collins (eventually)/Eubanks or Landale
    McCollum/Forbes/Walker IV
    Simmons/McCollum

    Jones, Hutchinson, Primo, Wieskamp
    That's an interesting team..

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    A better iteration would be . . .

    76ers: Lillard, Young

    Trail Blazers: Murray, White, Poeltl, multiple 76ers 1sts, Spurs 1st

    Spurs: Simmons, McCollum

    Johnson/Samanic or Aminu
    McDermott/Vassell
    Collins (eventually)/Eubanks or Landale
    McCollum/Forbes/Walker IV
    Simmons/McCollum

    Jones, Hutchinson, Primo, Wieskamp
    McDermott was included in the trade as well.

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    These guys usually have garbage trade ideas, but this one is interesting. Obviously the hang up is Blazers here.

    I’m not in love with CJ, but the fit with Simmons actually works well.

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    A better iteration would be . . .

    76ers: Lillard, Young

    Trail Blazers: Murray, White, Poeltl, multiple 76ers 1sts, Spurs 1st

    Spurs: Simmons, McCollum

    Johnson/Samanic or Aminu
    McDermott/Vassell
    Collins (eventually)/Eubanks or Landale
    McCollum/Forbes/Walker IV
    Simmons/McCollum

    Jones, Hutchinson, Primo, Wieskamp
    Might as well include Walker if you're going to back bench him.

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    simmons wants to pick his team and has all cali teams on his wish list. seems like another kawhi to me, only with no offense to offer.

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    simmons wants to pick his team and has all cali teams on his wish list. seems like another kawhi to me, only with no offense to offer.
    Reports also coming out that he hasn't been "going through the Sixers workout plan, so no expectation he comes back improved next season.

    Guy failed spectacularly, burned his bridges, and now is trying to make demands with zero leverage. Sounds like a real fun guy to have on your team.

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    Simmons becomes more radioactive by the day. I have been saying all along I want no part of him on the Spurs and if somehow they bring him in, I promise they will rue the day. There is no way to leverage him into following a plan, he has a contract and collects money no matter what and the only question would be how long before he starts acting up to get traded to CA.

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    Bring him in, this team will be garbage for the foreseeable future, let's at least get some drama going.

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