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    Trump told you to get vaccinated, Qhris.

    You gonna follow his lead?

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    Ouch when a poser like fauci s on you


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    lol vaccines

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    Wow Johnson & Johnson paused in US because of blood clots

    I had a feelimg J&J would us since that talc powder bull they pulled for decades.

    Glad I never took it

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    They really ed us w this one


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    Wow Johnson & Johnson paused in US because of blood clots

    I had a feelimg J&J would us since that talc powder bull they pulled for decades.

    Glad I never took it
    six clots out of 7 million jabs? very rare.

    any pause in vaccination would be likely to kill more people than continuing to use the J&J shot, something similar goes for AZ.

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    six clots out of 7 million jabs? very rare.

    any pause in vaccination would be likely to kill more people than continuing to use the J&J shot, something similar goes for AZ.
    CDC and FDA disagree w u

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    CDC and FDA disagree w u
    I'm not challenging their authority, just wondering what the risk assessment is here.

    "abundance of caution" is a of a way to paste over yet more avoidable death from COVID.

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    I'm not challenging their authority, just wondering what the risk assessment is here.

    "abundance of caution" is a of a way to paste over yet more avoidable death from COVID.
    Show us your math. how is suspending J&J vacs causing more death and how much more. Show your numbers

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    Show us your math. how is suspending J&J vacs causing more death and how much more. Show your numbers
    There's no math necessary if the incidence of blood clots from vaccines is less than that of clotting related to COVID-19. Admittedly that's an ask, not an answer.

    I don't know the answer, I just dislike the opacity and hand waviness of the official explanation.

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    There's no math necessary if the incidence of blood clots from vaccines is less than that of clotting related to COVID-19. Admittedly that's an ask, not an answer.

    I don't know the answer, I just dislike the opacity and hand waviness of the official explanation.
    Sure. But whatever you claim is far from evident. Id say its probably not.

    The people that usually die from Covid have either already gotten their vaccine, or are staying home. Plus we dont know how many vaccines that would have been administered since pause went to arms that were destined to die from covid. Not to mention deaths lag for weeks.

    My guess is after a couple of days they will say J&J is safe for over 60. But I just dont think theyll recommend this for youg ppl. Especially the very young.

    It seems like a setback as I believe only J&J was testing on kids.

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    This is the first major setback with the new administrations covid plan imo

    Going to give Q s and re s more fodder to be anti-vax, no one will want the JNJ vaccine when and if it's ever allowed to be administered again. This is very short sighted imo, makes no sense on paper

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    CDC and FDA bad now

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    Going to give Q s and re s more fodder to be anti-vax, no one will want the JNJ vaccine when and if it's ever allowed to be administered again. This is very short sighted imo, makes no sense on paper
    exactly, as said in this thread, a handful of clot cases in Ms of injections. Ms of lives save and/or protected.

    The Q s, evangelicals, Macho Men will claim full justification for not getting vaccinated, and make all of us pay for the stupidity and ignorance.

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    Chance of a 25 year old's dying from COVID-19: 1 in 10,000.

    Chance of getting clots (not dying) from J&J: less than 1 in 1,000,000.

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    The risk-reward calculus of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, visualized

    Pausing distribution, though, runs a different risk:

    potentially reducing confidence in vaccines broadly,

    even the Pfizer and Moderna versions, which use different techniques for building immunity.

    That’s another way of saying that the frequency of these incidents is remarkably low.

    By way of comparison, every year about 12 in 100,000 Americans
    die in a car crash.

    Given the effectiveness of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine in preventing serious illness and death,

    vaccinating 6.8 million people could have prevented 123,000 deaths.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/13/risk-reward-calculus-johnson-johnson-vaccine-visualized

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    Chance of a 25 year old's dying from COVID-19: 1 in 10,000.

    Chance of getting clots (not dying) from J&J: less than 1 in 1,000,000.
    I mean silver lining at least CDC can say they're independent, not yes-men, etcetcetc....but this is a huge huge misstep in the long game
    Lots of medical providers that have been talking up the vaccines are face palming across the country right now

    Can we at least send the JNJ to Canada en masse to help them out? jeeze

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    I mean silver lining at least CDC can say they're independent, not yes-men, etcetcetc....but this is a huge huge misstep in the long game
    Lots of medical providers that have been talking up the vaccines are face palming across the country right now

    Can we at least send the JNJ to Canada en masse to help them out? jeeze
    Agreed. Antivax s are having an outsized influence on world public health policy.

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    Agreed. Antivax s are having an outsized influence on world public health policy.
    #blueanon

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