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    Trump was not tapped. Manafort was

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    So you are telling me that the government wiretapped Manafort to get to Trump who no one thought would actually win much less win the GOP nomination at a time when no one knew Trump was even considering running? Sure.
    Actually that was Trump playing 17-D chess all along. Genius!

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    I believe the FBI was interested in the deals with Russians and money laundering ways of Manafort before 2016. And I am right. So you are telling me that the government wiretapped Manafort to get to Trump who no one thought would actually win much less win the GOP nomination at a time when no one knew Trump was even considering running? Sure.
    So, you believe that the upper echelons of the FBI operate based on a high code of ethics?

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    So, you believe that the upper echelons of the FBI operate based on a high code of ethics?
    you ok with following the money?

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    Oh cool. Conspiracy time. Tell us the ulterior motive story here.
    Oh, JV Chump, you picked the wrong battle. Unless you are saying that you don't believe in the prevalence of ulterior motives (among the rich and the powerful).

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    you ok with following the money?
    I am relatively okay with it. And if I had to guess, Manafort did some shady dealings. But that's not my point. The point is/was that the shadow govt. was not going to not harrass and try to destroy perceived threats to them. If they were about the law, The Clinton Foundation would cease to exist tomorrow.

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    so, just manafort?

    no way trump ever did any shady dealings?

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    Trump was not tapped. Manafort was
    prove it spurraider21

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    Actually that was Trump playing 17-D chess all along. Genius!
    Decade long plan to take down Susan rice imo

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    i say he tapped trump.......like a badass

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    Psychic surveillance? Explain how they foretold the future of manafort.
    Zola's algorithm. It's real!!

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    prove it spurraider21
    Trumps own doj said he wasn't tapped after investigating

    Do you think Jeff sessions is part of the destroy trump alt left deep state?

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    Trump was not tapped. Manafort was
    Trump Tower was. His campaign was. Comey lied. Clapper lied. Trump was correct, again.

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    Trump Tower was. His campaign was. Comey lied. Clapper lied. Trump was correct, again.
    Did the current administrations doj lie?

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    Trump Tower was. His campaign was. Comey lied. Clapper lied. Trump was correct, again.
    Not his campaign. Trump himself was not wiretapped.

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    Psychic surveillance? Explain how they foretold the future of manafort.
    Oh cool. Conspiracy time. Tell us the ulterior motive story here.
    I like how you think asking simple clarification questions is a shtick.

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    Trump was not tapped. Manafort was
    prove it spurraider21
    Philo Phucked up. You left the safety of the sidelines Philo, and got hit by your own bag of urine.

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    Trump Tower was. His campaign was. Comey lied. Clapper lied. Trump was correct, again.
    We're you correct? How's your theory holding up?

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    Trumps own doj said he wasn't tapped after investigating

    Do you think Jeff sessions is part of the destroy trump alt left deep state?
    Sessions is just a moron.

    Even Trump told him to his face

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    Trump Tower was. His campaign was. Comey lied. Clapper lied. Trump was correct, again.
    When does Clapper not lie?

    got is one of the biggest liers in history of the USA

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    Socratic method

    You saying Socrates was a troll?
    You have difficulties addressing the substance of an assertion.

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    I haven't avoided it; I've dismissed it. There's a difference. I could answer it if you insist, but it wouldn't change the scope of this conversation.

    Do you pretend that the government is morally upright?
    You are really bad at arguing.

    You must have been slaughtered in prep school debates.

    Whether the government is morally upright is irrelevant to his question. Manafort wasn't the Trump campaign manger in 2014. So it couldn't be anymore crystal clear that he was being surveilled for reasons related to him and not Trump. A change in the "scope" of the conversation has nothing to do with how fatal that fact is to your line of reasoning.
    Last edited by DMX7; 09-20-2017 at 10:32 PM.

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    You have difficulties addressing the substance of an assertion.
    As do you. Are you saying Socrates was a troll?

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    As do you. Are you saying Socrates was a troll?
    No, I don't. Your question is a total dodge of my assertion.

    I'll answer your silly question -- the answer is No. And that doesn't at all effect what I wrote.

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    As do you. Are you saying Socrates was a troll?
    In today's world possibly so.

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