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    If the draft starts at 8:00 PM, I was estimating the Spurs would be picking at 9:00 PM. Is that a reasonable estimate?
    They’ll probably go to commercials while the Spurs picked is called so you won’t miss much.

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    If I am eating Wiggins contract I am wanting the 7th and keeping our 12th pick for sure - I would throw in Derozz for Wiggins and there 7th and 15th pick - then trade a team for our 12th or 15th pick for year 2022 or 23
    They don’t want salary back. That is the purpose to sending assets WITH Wiggins. Try to think of trades using those parameters.

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    Does anyone know around what time the 12th pick will be on draft day? Just trying to plan out my Thursday night.
    You know what's funny, in several drafts I've noticed that right when its the spurs turn to pick, they go to a commercial break. I know it happens to other teams, but it happens to the spurs a lot. Coincidence ?

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    Not very long now

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    dont get an iphone
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    If the draft starts at 8:00 PM, I was estimating the Spurs would be picking at 9:00 PM. Is that a reasonable estimate?
    8 pm ET... So 7 pm CT...

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    1 Day until the Draft!... 1 Day and 8 hrs actually...

    5 Days until Free Agency!

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    From SI latest intel…

    “As previously reported here, the Spurs have angled to move up in the draft and into the top 10. It’s worth noting they have historically been content to stand pat on draft night. The Spurs have spent the past few years developing their young perimeter players, and Keldon Johnson in particular looks like a keeper, but it’s been rumored that they aren’t necessarily attached at the hip to players like Dejounte Murray and Lonnie Walker. In this scenario they go best-available and select Moody, whose range begins at No. 8 and ends at No. 15 or so.”

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    i still dont understand how EVERY prospect except Franz is okay with revealing which teams they’ve worked out for. EVERY prospect. Franz must want to really go to that team bad. But why?
    This is a courting process a lot of it even talked about with the agent who is looking to land the player in the best situation for them, where they will get the most playing time, and opportunity to highlight their skills, etc.

    He could be concealing special workouts he’s had in private because he may be part of a trade. Since that trade may not occur they will have asked him to keep things to himself. He knows who has interest in him, but not whether trades will happen in the end, etc.

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    Wagner having a promise to the Warriors at 7 makes a lot of sense, IMO. As a win-now piece for Golden State, Wagner is a strong fit. He gives them talented size they've been missing and someone who doesn't need the ball to make an impact. From Wagner's perspective, he was unlikely to go in the top 6 and would be going to a really good situation, so it would have been a no-brainer to accept the promise.

    A promise to the Kings at 9? Yeah, no, that'd be hard to believe. The Kings settling for a low ceiling player way before the draft and Wagner going to the Kings on purpose are both unlikely.

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    8 pm ET... So 7 pm CT...
    Damn it’s my kid’s blackbelt ceremony. Guess we’ll just drop by at the master’s house to get it

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    Wagner worked out for 7-10. Givony said on a podcast. Lowe post i think.

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    Wagner having a promise to the Warriors at 7 makes a lot of sense, IMO. As a win-now piece for Golden State, Wagner is a strong fit. He gives them talented size they've been missing and someone who doesn't need the ball to make an impact. From Wagner's perspective, he was unlikely to go in the top 6 and would be going to a really good situation, so it would have been a no-brainer to accept the promise.

    A promise to the Kings at 9? Yeah, no, that'd be hard to believe. The Kings settling for a low ceiling player way before the draft and Wagner going to the Kings on purpose are both unlikely.
    That makes way more sense, assuming GS doesn’t trade the pick.

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    Damn it’s my kid’s blackbelt ceremony. Guess we’ll just drop by at the master’s house to get it
    Dude! Go to your kid's ceremony, nothing you do will affect the draft results and you can read about it on spurstalk later...

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    Dude! Go to your kid's ceremony, nothing you do will affect the draft results and you can read about it on spurstalk later...

    he will miss the real time epic meltdown in the draft thread

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    he will miss the real time epic meltdown in the draft thread
    Once you've seen one epic spurstalk meltdown, you've seen them all. The draft meltdown is an annual event, happens every year.

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    Who will we leave on the board that infuriates part of the fanbase? I’m guessing either Kai or Sengun.

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    Wagner having a promise to the Warriors at 7 makes a lot of sense, IMO. As a win-now piece for Golden State, Wagner is a strong fit. He gives them talented size they've been missing and someone who doesn't need the ball to make an impact. From Wagner's perspective, he was unlikely to go in the top 6 and would be going to a really good situation, so it would have been a no-brainer to accept the promise.

    A promise to the Kings at 9? Yeah, no, that'd be hard to believe. The Kings settling for a low ceiling player way before the draft and Wagner going to the Kings on purpose are both unlikely.
    I wonder the degree to which the win now mode is dissuading these prospects from GSW, in secret tbh. Coach Kerr basically threw Wiseman under the bus for good reason, but still. He was rumored to be traded even before being picked and his first season aside from being disappointing for a 1st round draft pick has him already rumored to be in trades again. He’s under immense pressure to develop quickly to fit a timeline that’s not his own. All these guys aren’t ready for that pressure which is why I think GSW is expected to make some move. It’s not about the future for them.

    And these guys can’t be assured that they won’t be ditched after getting drafted for some win now move. That’s just how it is. I wouldn’t necessarily want to be drafted there for that reason, even after giving them the lip service of admiring their team, etc.

    They have always been rumored to flip 7 for a win now player and keep 14. Anyways this is all speculation based on some reports. They may very well keep the pick bc they love Franz or Giddey or someone else like Bouknight.

    I wonder if you missed an article I posted about how Halliburton and his agent really dissuaded other teams higher up in the draft from drafting him. He wanted to go to Sacramento bc they sold him in his fit, development, role etc.

    Its not that cut and dried.

    There are rumors swirling with Beal, and others around the league it’s possible that pick is going to the Wizards after all for example…
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    I wonder if you missed an article I posted about how Halliburton and his agent really dissuaded other teams higher up in the draft from drafting him. He wanted to go to Sacramento bc they sold him in his fit, development, role etc.
    Eh, that rumor turned out to be BS. I think it was Givony who spread that rumor (if we're discussing the same rumor). The Kings were Haliburton's floor but he didn't angle is way to Sacramento: https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...ought_i_could/

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    Eh, that rumor turned out to be BS. I think it was Givony who spread that rumor (if we're discussing the same rumor). The Kings were Haliburton's floor but he didn't angle is way to Sacramento: https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...ought_i_could/
    No I posted an article from a local news station in Sacramento tbh.

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    IF we stay at #12..we are gonna get someone good. I can see any of the following available:

    Jalen Johnson
    Kai
    Giddey
    Moses
    Wagner
    Sengun
    Keon
    Bouknight

    Last year's draft there was what 1-3 good scenarios?

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    Once you've seen one epic spurstalk meltdown, you've seen them all. The draft meltdown is an annual event, happens every year.
    Its a glorious event. insert the Will Ferrell GIF from Zoolander..."Dear God...it's beautiful"

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    Who will we leave on the board that infuriates part of the fanbase? I’m guessing either Kai or Sengun.
    Imagine us passing up wagner too lmao

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    I wonder the degree to which the win now mode is dissuading these prospects from GSW, in secret tbh. Coach Kerr basically threw Wiseman under the bus for good reason, but still. He was rumored to be traded even before being picked and his first season aside from being disappointing for a 1st round draft pick has him already rumored to be in trades again. He’s under immense pressure to develop quickly to fit a timeline that’s not his own. All these guys aren’t ready for that pressure which is why I think GSW is expected to make some move. It’s not about the future for them.

    And these guys can’t be assured that they won’t be ditched after getting drafted for some win now move. That’s just how it is. I wouldn’t necessarily want to be drafted there for that reason, even after giving them the lip service of admiring their team, etc.

    They have always been rumored to flip 7 for a win now player and keep 14. Anyways this is all speculation based on some reports. They may very well keep the pick bc they love Franz or Giddey or someone else like Bouknight.

    I wonder if you missed an article I posted about how Halliburton and his agent really dissuaded other teams higher up in the draft from drafting him. He wanted to go to Sacramento bc they sold him in his fit, development, role etc.

    Its not that cut and dried.

    There are rumors swirling with Beal, and others around the league it’s possible that pick is going to the Wizards after all for example…
    If they are really enamored with someone at 7 maybe they have a deal somewhere to package Wiseman + 14 with Wiggins for cap relief or a player that offers 'some' cap relief.

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    If they are really enamored with someone at 7 maybe they have a deal somewhere to package Wiseman + 14 with Wiggins for cap relief or a player that offers 'some' cap relief.
    My personal guess from reading between the lines is that there is a deal in place and its not some salary dump/cap relief. They likely have made offers for the disgruntled stars out there, and if there is a trade it will happen on draft night. I don’t know that there is a bid for the 7th necessarily. Grizzlies have the highest rumors to want to trade up but who knows if it is for 7. I am now wondering that they want Mobley, and not some of the rumors that are swirling around, but they have to be comfortable with picking at 10 if they can’t trade higher for example. There are many other teams interested in trading up, and a few stars that want out. My guess is that the trade is likely with the Wizards for Beal. GSW sends Wiggins as $ ballast, and maybe Wiseman and 7th plus a future pick. Wizards to jumpstart their rebuild likely prefer the higher, not the lower pick, they may even want both.

    There was a rumor on twitter that Grizzlies offered Dillon Brooks in exchange for Beal. I imagine picks would be attached, and that the offer was rejected bc Winslow was included for salary matching. Bledsoe would be ballast in a different hypothetical offer. There are things happening behind closed doors that we can only speculate about, but projecting GSW is the riskiest bc IMO they are likely to move one or both picks in some kind of win now move.

    I haven’t even mentioned Simmons bc who knows what’s going on there. The rumor is Morey is waiting for the expected Lillard trade request. Incidentally, I heard that NOLA is also interested in both Beal and Lillard… so who knows.

    Final point is that if there is a bidding war, obviously GSW can’t get stingy with their assets, bu their move isn’t IMO as narrow as shedding salary. It’s never been about that or they never would have asked Durant to do the sign and trade. This is the only way they have to improve their roster. Worry about shedding salary if Curry’s ankles fall off a cliff basically.

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