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    Surprised no one brought up Brogdan yet since he's the most obvious counter-counter example.
    We don't need to bring any counter-counter example to apply common sense son. You are the only one here thinking (actually, not thinking, just saying for the sake of pimping an argument) Murray will get 100 millions for 4 years next offseason.

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    Murray's numbers will be at least: 17pts, 7reb, 3 assists & 2 steals. He will be the most improved player next year or at least in contention for it. His shooting will be much improved at the 3 and mid-range. He will also be able to finish at the rim better due to his added strength. Our team defense will be elite with him back on the floor.

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    u right, but numbers will be much lower. i expect sth around 8ppg/4rpg/3apg. Guys who think murray will be back and put such a numbers like he deserve 100/4 are funny
    If starting, he will score at least 10ppg

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    Ppl who think murray will average at least 7 rebounds for a season as a PG are being a bit ridiculous... Don't get me wrong... He is my favorite player, and I would LOVE for that to be the case... But 7-8 rebounds as a PG is some incredibly historically elite numbers at that position, and he isn't even in his prime yet... The most he will average this season is 6...and even that is a success in my book... U guys are placing unreasonable expectations on the kid...

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    We don't need to bring any counter-counter example to apply common sense son. You are the only one here thinking (actually, not thinking, just saying for the sake of pimping an argument) Murray will get 100 millions for 4 years next offseason.
    Do you recall when Otto Porter got his max contract? It's entirely possible. Next offseason will be a very player friendly year apparently. All the rumors have stated Sours expect him to be a star one day. If that's true, max contracts after rookie years have been pretty common. I give it a 40% shot he may get that offer. Will help to see him play a few more games though.

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    Ppl who think murray will average at least 7 rebounds for a season as a PG are being a bit ridiculous... Don't get me wrong... He is my favorite player, and I would LOVE for that to be the case... But 7-8 rebounds as a PG is some incredibly historically elite numbers at that position, and he isn't even in his prime yet... The most he will average this season is 6...and even that is a success in my book... U guys are placing unreasonable expectations on the kid...
    I mean his per 36 rebounds per game was about 9, might be a little inflated but he’s still a great rebounder for a guard

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    Ppl who think murray will average at least 7 rebounds for a season as a PG are being a bit ridiculous...
    He’s already an elite rebounder in his 2nd season so you must not have been paying attention.

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    Do you recall when Otto Porter got his max contract? It's entirely possible. Next offseason will be a very player friendly year apparently. All the rumors have stated Sours expect him to be a star one day. If that's true, max contracts after rookie years have been pretty common. I give it a 40% shot he may get that offer. Will help to see him play a few more games though.
    Another beneficiary of the summers of inflations. Wizards handed a handfull of awful contracts around that time, tbh.

    Yeah, the Otto Porter example is the best case you can find to defend Chinook's position. Still, that ended up being the exception, not the norm, and Otto Porter was a much more sure thing by the time he got that contract, than what Murray is right now.

    You say 40%, I say 2% chance of Murray getting a miraculous, never seen before from a guy coming off an ACL injury, bounce-back season and he gets that type of contract, tbh.

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    Murray numbers next season...

    13.7ppg, 5.7rpg, 4.4apg
    Yeah, that's what Biff's book said.

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    I mean his per 36 rebounds per game was about 9, might be a little inflated but he’s still a great rebounder for a guard
    He reminds me a little bit of Rodman, just that sense of where the ball is going to come off the glass or rim. He certainly isn't boxing people out at 170 lbs.

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    I mean his per 36 rebounds per game was about 9, might be a little inflated but he’s still a great rebounder for a guard
    There were a lot of great rebounder at PG, but they hardly ever averaged 7 or 8 rebounds a game

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    He’s already an elite rebounder in his 2nd season so you must not have been paying attention.
    Not historically elite... How do u not understand what I wrote? So ur saying he will average at least 7 rebounds this year? Because unless ur saying that, ur agreeing with me and arguing needlessly

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    He averaged almost 6 boards playing only 21mins a night so yes he will average at least 7 boards easy next season.

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    I see Murray getting a deal more like 4 year 80 million. Unless he has an amazing comeback year, which he might since he spent all season in the film room and the gym practicing his jumper. This could’ve been a blessing in disguise for him bc he really needed to learn the point guard position and seeing things from the eyes of the coaching staff can only help with that. 13 ppg. 3 assists and 6.5 rebounds next year with supreme defense. Also 35% from downtown.

    Btw I’m hoping we sign Derrick White to a 4 year 80 million dollar deal as well. I don’t know how realistic it is for us to get both of them for 20 million a year but I hope that’s the case. I’m expecting BIG things from White this season. Just the added confidence alone from Pop has to mean something to the kid. 15-17 points a game and 5 assists with solid defense and 40% 3 point shooting is his ceiling I believe he will hit.

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    He averaged almost 6 boards playing only 21mins a night so yes he will average at least 7 boards easy next season.
    You do understand that stats don't directly correlate with minutes, right? He won't average more than seven a game next year... I hope I'm wrong... But it's highly unlikely that he hits that mark in his third year... If we go by everyone's per 36 numbers, there would be tons of elite bench players and specialists that should be getting more minutes in the NBA... But that's not how it works in reality... U know what? F*ck it... Let me jump on the optimism train... Murray will average 8rbs a game this season! He is my favorite player by a mile, so I'm rooting for this to happen

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    You do understand that your knowledge of basketball is very minimal. It’s not just the extra minutes but his strength and I.Q will be better. He was already an elite rebounder.

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    He’s already an elite rebounder in his 2nd season so you must not have been paying attention.
    Exactly

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    You do understand that your knowledge of basketball is very minimal. It’s not just the extra minutes but his strength and I.Q will be better. He was already an elite rebounder.
    If he averages less than 7 rebounds a game, will u admit that I know more about basketball than you do? (especially since everything I've ever said would happen on this message board ended up happening)

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    You do understand that your knowledge of basketball is very minimal. It’s not just the extra minutes but his strength and I.Q will be better. He was already an elite rebounder.
    If he averages less than 7 rebounds a game, will u admit that I know more about basketball than you do? (especially since everything I've ever said would happen on this message board ended up happening)

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    warriors gave draymond 5/82 right after they won their first championship and he played a huge role on that team. so what if he hadn't won DPOY yet, he was the ing runner up that year against Kawhi ... he was WAY more than "just some young guy who showed some potential."

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    I see Murray getting a deal more like 4 year 80 million.
    agree

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    Jabari said he’s not hearing any DeMar trade chatter either.


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    Yeah, that's what Biff's book said.
    Who’s Biff?

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    Murray's numbers will be at least: 17pts, 7reb, 3 assists & 2 steals. He will be the most improved player next year or at least in contention for it. His shooting will be much improved at the 3 and mid-range. He will also be able to finish at the rim better due to his added strength. Our team defense will be elite with him back on the floor.

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    The jerk on Back To The Future.
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