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    10 or so years ago, before gay marriage was legalized, the liberal position was live and let live: don't prescribe morality, everyone stay in your own lane, let people live their life, etc... Somewhere along the way, a shark was jumped and now liberal's are compelled to celebrate all manner of non-traditional iden ies. If you don't partake in that celebration, then you're automatically cast with a scarlet R on your forehead.
    This. All of this.

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    I've seen kids in casinos after 2am, kids being brought to hard-R movies, kids at rap and hardcore metal shows, kids being brought to Q-anon and "the world is ending on May 15th" rallies, but you want the goverment protecting them from being exposed to men doing comedy in wigs and makeup? That's stupid.

    Is it possible you're confusing drag shows with burlesque?
    I'm talking about what happened in Dallas a few weeks ago when parents had their 6 year old kids stuffing dollar bills down the thong cross dressing men were wearing at a drag show. Not sure if it's called drag or burlesque.

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    I'm fine with this.

    There's no reason to bring your 7 year old to a drag queen show.
    this was such low effort bait

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    "Because I don't approve, it should be illegal for everyone else"

    What is it about a man wearing a costume that's so dangerous or offensive there needs to be a law against it?
    it all starts making sense when you realize its just a disgust reaction

    people used to say the same crap about gay people back when gay marriage was a hot topic

    i dont want my children to be exposed to gay people kissing on tv, etc

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    10 or so years ago, before gay marriage was legalized, the liberal position was live and let live: don't prescribe morality, everyone stay in your own lane, let people live their life, etc... Somewhere along the way, a shark was jumped and now liberal's are compelled to celebrate all manner of non-traditional iden ies. If you don't partake in that celebration, then you're automatically cast with a scarlet R on your forehead.
    no, its still live and let live

    nobody is saying you have to take your kids to drag queen shows or else you are transphobic/bigoted

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    Do opinions on a message board intimidate you?

    Will's pretty open about being a bigot, tbh. Just ask him.
    Pretty impressive display of straw grasping and hyperbole here, swinging from "intimidation" to "bigotry." Nevertheless, thank you for unironically proving my point.

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    no, its still live and let live

    nobody is saying you have to take your kids to drag queen shows or else you are transphobic/bigoted
    What people are saying is that it's bigotry and [insert-iden y]-phobia to say that it's not cool to have 10 year olds putting 20's down a trannies g-string in front of a "lick dis pussy" sign.

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    Now do the Boy Scouts and the Catholic church and the Southern Baptist church and the Penn State wrestling program and the private detention contractors.
    No reason to bring a 7 year old to church

    Outlaw it!

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    Pretty impressive display of straw grasping and hyperbole here, swinging from "intimidation" to "bigotry." Nevertheless, thank you for unironically proving my point.
    What people are saying is that it's bigotry and [insert-iden y]-phobia to say that it's not cool to have 10 year olds putting 20's down a trannies g-string in front of a "lick dis pussy" sign.
    Dude that's straw. What people are saying that?

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    this was such low effort bait
    Bait now. Oh ok.

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    Pretty impressive display of straw grasping and hyperbole here, swinging from "intimidation" to "bigotry." Nevertheless, thank you for unironically proving my point.
    what point, that you're hypersensitive to anonymous, bulletin board criticism, even when levelled at others who don't dispute it?

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    Not seeing any medium itt
    Really? You're seeing posters in this thread saying that people should be coerced to actively celebrate gender diversity? Or are you so icked out by drag queens that anyone saying "I don't see what the big deal is" amounts to cancel culture?

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    I'm talking about what happened in Dallas a few weeks ago when parents had their 6 year old kids stuffing dollar bills down the thong cross dressing men were wearing at a drag show. Not sure if it's called drag or burlesque.
    So all it takes for you to align with the nuttiest wing of the Republican party on sweeping legislation to address the latest manufactured outrage is a viral video.

    Investigate the parents in the video if that's what's bothering you. Pretty sure what happened there may already be covered by indecency/obscenity laws when it comes to children, but that's not my area of expertise.

    Vague "no kids at drag shows" legislation is an unnecessary intrusion on parents that seems like a slippery slope to other arbitrary rules to address whatever other cultural trends give old white Christian Republicans the vapors.

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    what point, that you're hypersensitive to anonymous, bulletin board criticism, even when levelled at others who don't dispute it?
    Moar projection. The only display of hypersensitivity I've seen is yours in layering on the bigotry accusation pretty thickly. Unlike you, I don't need to resort to the talisman of calling someone a bigot or a racist to have a conversation.

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    Really? You're seeing posters in this thread saying that people should be coerced to actively celebrate gender diversity? Or are you so icked out by drag queens that anyone saying "I don't see what the big deal is" amounts to cancel culture?
    Yes, really. What I've seen is Winehole accuse people of being a bigot and, when called out on it, resort to a "no u" type response. That is all in response to a level-headed objection that it's not a good idea to have an 8 year old see a dude dressed like Nicki Minaj doing the splits in front of a lick this pussy sign. Criticism of that event has garnered a pretty robust chorus of "you're a bigot."

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    What people are saying is that it's bigotry and [insert-iden y]-phobia to say that it's not cool to have 10 year olds putting 20's down a trannies g-string in front of a "lick dis pussy" sign.
    you tell me. who is saying that?

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    Yes, really. What I've seen is Winehole accuse people of being a bigot and, when called out on it, resort to a "no u" type response. That is all in response to a level-headed objection that it's not a good idea to have an 8 year old see a dude dressed like Nicki Minaj doing the splits in front of a lick this pussy sign. Criticism of that event has garnered a pretty robust chorus of "you're a bigot."
    first, i dont think WH said its bigoted to not want kids at an event like that.

    but my question is why does it matter that its a dude dressed like nicki minaj doing the splits in front of a lick this pussy sign

    wouldnt it just be equally bad if it was any woman dressed like nicki minaj doing splits in front of a lick this pussy sign?

    is overtly sexual content in front of kids ok as long as there isnt an LGBT element to it? this goes back to religious nuttery or just vague reactionary complaints about "degeneracy". i'd agree that that part is being bigoted/transphobic

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    Yes, really. What I've seen is Winehole accuse people of being a bigot and, when called out on it, resort to a "no u" type response. That is all in response to a level-headed objection that it's not a good idea to have an 8 year old see a dude dressed like Nicki Minaj doing the splits in front of a lick this pussy sign. Criticism of that event has garnered a pretty robust chorus of "you're a bigot."
    "I'm not seeing any medium from anyone in this thread, as evidenced by a couple of these Winehole posts."

    And jesus, that video has you guys worked up. Amazing how a single video can cause such disproportionate focus on a non issue.

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    a boy comes home from kindergarten, family jokes if he has a girlfriend. thats just good laughs

    family asks if he has a boyfriend and that is going too far and grooming our children

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    you tell me. who is saying that?
    Winehole, for starters. Use your mouse and scroll.

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    Winehole, for starters. Use your mouse and scroll.
    his comments appeared to be toward drag in general, not the specific event with those added sexual elements

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    first, i dont think WH said its bigoted to not want kids at an event like that.

    but my question is why does it matter that its a dude dressed like nicki minaj doing the splits in front of a lick this pussy sign

    wouldnt it just be equally bad if it was any woman dressed like nicki minaj doing splits in front of a lick this pussy sign?

    is overtly sexual content in front of kids ok as long as there isnt an LGBT element to it? this goes back to religious nuttery or just vague reactionary complaints about "degeneracy". i'd agree that that part is being bigoted/transphobic
    Yes, it would be equally bad if a woman dressed like nicki minaj did the same thing. That's why we don't take 8 year olds to a ing strip club. Drag is an overtly sexualized performance. Stripping is also an overtly sexualized performance. Both are bad for pre-teens. The only reason why the drag context is so controversial is because it's at loggerheads with people trying to virtue signal their allegiance to all things lgbtq

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    "I'm not seeing any medium from anyone in this thread, as evidenced by a couple of these Winehole posts."

    And jesus, that video has you guys worked up. Amazing how a single video can cause such disproportionate focus on a non issue.
    "Got you worked up" is the DMC/Gaythan of defenses. I'm just pointing out, I leave it to the others to hyperventilate over it.

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    Yes, it would be equally bad if a woman dressed like nicki minaj did the same thing. That's why we don't take 8 year olds to a ing strip club. Drag is an overtly sexualized performance. Stripping is also an overtly sexualized performance. Both are bad for pre-teens. The only reason why the drag context is so controversial is because it's at loggerheads with people trying to virtue signal their allegiance to all things lgbtq
    nobody here is advocating for taking 8 year olds to strip clubs. i dont think anybody here has been suggesting that the particular scene from those viral pics or video or whatever are age appropriate.

    i think the signaling that its the LGBT element that inherently makes it worse is the bigoted part. i mean you specifically took offense to "a guy dressed like nicki minaj" as part of your complaint as if that was a critical part of it. if you just cared about sexual indecency, you wouldnt care who the it was accepting money through a thong in front of a lick this pussy sign with children present. but no, you had to make it clear that it was worse because it was a man.

    if anybody here has suggested that the bolded is ok, feel free to direct me to that particular post

    scarlet R

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    nobody here is advocating for taking 8 year olds to strip clubs. i dont think anybody here has been suggesting that the particular scene from those viral pics or video or whatever are age appropriate.

    i think the signaling that its the LGBT element that inherently makes it worse is the bigoted part. i mean you specifically took offense to "a guy dressed like nicki minaj" as part of your complaint as if that was a critical part of it. if you just cared about sexual indecency, you wouldnt care who the it was accepting money through a thong in front of a lick this pussy sign with children present. but no, you had to make it clear that it was worse because it was a man.

    if anybody here has suggested that the bolded is ok, feel free to direct me to that particular post

    scarlet R
    holy this is one of the more disengenuous posts I've seen in a while. I literally said that a strip club is a bad environment for a pre-teen. I've been consistent in saying that the inappropriate part is putting pre-teens in an overtly sexual environment. The post you quoted literally said that taking a kid to a strip club is bad. That I said it was equally inappropriate to take them to a strip club means that I have not signaled "that its the LGBT element that inherently makes it worse," which you claim to be the "bigoted part." This is exactly what I meant by saying that if you're not unequivocally celebrating all things lgbtq, then you get branded as a bigot or a conservative.

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