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  1. #6826
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    that tells me how much we overrate the scouts. i saw manziel play in high school and he was better than a three star at that time but his lack of size and disrespect the SA greater has in terms of the football talent here affected his rating. the same can be said of justin stockton. i still, to this day, have not seen any high school football player in person with the speed stockton has, and yet he was only a three star as well. had stockton or manziel gone to a houston school or dallas area school they would have been rated at four stars.
    Fwiw, Scout gave Stockton a 4th star at the end of his senior year

  2. #6827
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    in your opinion, why do you think so many schools passed on Johnny and Mariota?
    Not sure about Inbred, but Mariota probably didn't get heavily recruited because most schools don't want to deal with the hassle of recruiting in Hawai'i.

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    Not sure about Inbred, but Mariota probably didn't get heavily recruited because most schools don't want to deal with the hassle of recruiting in Hawai'i.
    What hassle?

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    Traveling to Hawaii is not a vacation for them but a schlep. The state is barely a blip on the recruiting radar as a result. Most coaches outside the West Coast ignore Hawaiian players altogether. The state has sent more than 50 three-, four- and five-star recruits to play Division-I college football in the last five years, and all but two stayed on Hawaii’s side of the Mississippi River.

    Even for coaches who are closer to Hawaii, like Oregon’s staff, it is not exactly paradise. The time difference makes it unlikely that Southeastern Conference coaches will look at Hawaiian recruits. But it’s also time-consuming for West Coast coaches. The few non-stop flights between Portland and Honolulu require a two-hour drive and six-hour flight for Oregon’s coaches. “It was actually a pain,” said former Oregon defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti.

    The long business trip turns recruiting Hawaii into the equivalent of a Goldman Sachs banker hopping to Paris for breakfast, wooing a new client over café au lait and flying back to New York for dinner. “You never wanted to lose a day, so you always had to do the red-eye going home,” said former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel. “That was a nightmare.”

    The other hassle of Hawaii is that there aren’t enough players to make the haul worthwhile. Many warm-weather states, where it’s possible to play football all year round, are breeding grounds for big-time programs. Texas, for example, had 569 players that were given top rankings by the recruiting website Rivals last year. Florida had 526, and California had 523. Hawaii had 21.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-no-o...ota-1418327384

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    Basically, travel is a pain and there's not enough talent to be worth it.

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    in your opinion, why do you think so many schools passed on Johnny and Mariota?
    Pure speculation, but given his upbringing and the culture he comes from I wouldn't be surprised if Mariota shut down his recruiting after comitting to Oregon early. Man of his word and all that. Football had several upper tier P5 offers (A&M, Oregon, Stanford, etc).

    Probably measurables though, which are pretty overrated for CFB imo. They matter more for the NFL.

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    CB Keivon Ramsey ended up signing with West Texas A&M.
    UTSA should've given him a shot tbh.

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    Coach Rumph to Florida is now official.

  9. #6834
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    Well ing

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    OrangeBloods saying Coach Rumph took the Florida job before speaking with Strong, but we'll never know if that's just spin.

    Would love to know who knew what and when since Rumph wasn't hired the first time and the job opened a month later.

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    Coach Rumph to Florida is now official.
    Damn, all momentum UT had recruiting suddenly comes to a screeching stop. Expect new recruits to not let this go without saying there say so, gonna get ugly...Strong better start winning cause the moral and ethical selling points are now out the window

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    bag move if true.

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    This is really an awful development.
    You gotta hire people with integrity. It's not fair to these kids. Remember Tuberville walking out on a recruit during an interview... Slime ball.

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    He is replaceble. Sucks, but life will go on for the recruits.

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    Core values baby!!! Charlie is such an honorable man!

    Call Me Deebs@DeeChilllin 4s 5 seconds ago
    Its not even the fact he left. Bc thats what coaches do. Its the fact i was told it wasnt going to happen

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    Core values baby!!! Charlie is such an honorable man!
    Follow

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    Ya'll dont worry me & Charless_94 gone ball at DKR either way it go! #HookEm

    Players gonna play for Strong not Rumph..Just a replaceable coach, but Strong is still at UT, sorry ATM fans..

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    Core values baby!!! Charlie is such an honorable man!
    I doubt Charlie told him that unless Charlie really believed it. The man is all class and has great integrity.

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    Basically, travel is a pain and there's not enough talent to be worth it.
    ok. That makes some sense why so many schools passed on Mariota.

    But for Johnny, he played in Texas and was getting plenty of local press.

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    Football had several upper tier P5 offers (A&M, Oregon, Stanford, etc).
    Lol "etc"

    Where were the offers from UT, Tech, Okie, Okie St, Bama, LSU etc?

    Johnny was the national high school player of the year and he played in Kerrville, so it's not like these schools had to fly to Hawaii to see him.

    Where were they?

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    I doubt Charlie told him that unless Charlie really believed it. The man is all class and has great integrity.

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    but Strong is still at UT, sorry ATM fans..
    Huh? I have no problem Texas having the 6-7 charlie strong and his core values. Guy is the next Fran.

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    I'm seeing Clint Hurtt's name out there as potentially being offered the job already.

    Has ties to Strong from Louisville. Currently with the Chicago Bears.

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    ok. That makes some sense why so many schools passed on Mariota.

    But for Johnny, he played in Texas and was getting plenty of local press.
    Huh? I have no problem Texas having the 6-7 charlie strong and his core values. Guy is the next Fran.
    2012= 11-2
    2013=9-4
    2014= 8-5

    Are you starting to see a trend here? I try and root for all texas football teams but I am big fan of Strong and Aggie's seem to think they are getting better with each season under Sumlin when the records say otherwise.

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    Huh? I have no problem Texas having the 6-7 charlie strong and his core values. Guy is the next Fran.
    You are worried.

  25. #6850
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    Core values baby!!! Charlie is such an honorable man!
    Huh? I have no problem Texas having the 6-7 charlie strong and his core values. Guy is the next Fran.
    Keep it on the rails there, DT.

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