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    Is Pop trying to turn the Spurs into Team Argentina? Goodness, is there a player from the 04 squad the Spurs haven't gone after yet?
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    I have explain this so many times here and some stupid people cannot understand. They do PAY tax but you stupid idiots cannot understand simple concept.

    Salary is AFTER TAX. No tax salary in Europe mean AFTER TAX salary. How many time do idiots here need be explain this? I am not sorry for talk this way because after maybe 20 posts try explain this still idiots is not able understand such simple thing.
    So people don't agree with you so you become insulting. Very sportsmanlike.

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    There would be culture shock obviously, but if he takes some family or friends with him, then it can help a little. I just think the NBA is sort of wrong in putting the age limit and in the rookie salary. I understand they are protecting themselves because a lot of these athletes aren't going to live up to their hype, but if they do, the NBA makes a lot of money off of them.

    I am not for high school kids going to Europe instead of college, but I understand it and if I had the chance to go make millions of dollars straight out of high school, I'd do it instead of going to school.

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    He'd fit in the offense if asked to play 15 to 20 minutes per night. In fact, I think he would be a marked improvement over Finley. In their primes, you take Fin 100/100 times, but at this point Delfino is a step or two up in terms of his own ability and in terms if spelling Ginobli.
    Thats great, but as mentioned before: he'd be a great secondary signing after maggette, but a bad primary signing.

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    There would be culture shock obviously, but if he takes some family or friends with him, then it can help a little. I just think the NBA is sort of wrong in putting the age limit and in the rookie salary. I understand they are protecting themselves because a lot of these athletes aren't going to live up to their hype, but if they do, the NBA makes a lot of money off of them.

    I am not for high school kids going to Europe instead of college, but I understand it and if I had the chance to go make millions of dollars straight out of high school, I'd do it instead of going to school.
    I would too. I can take or leave the age limit but I do like the rookie salary cap.

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    So people don't agree with you so you become insulting. Very sportsmanlike.
    There is difference between not agree with someone and keep saying things which is wrong and accuse others who is state true thing of be wrong. It just shows very stupid person when they keep doing these kind of things.

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    Its a business and the NBA is doing what it feels it needs to do to keep their product on top.

    I can see more and more H.S kids leaving overseas though. I wouldn't mind being an agent and sending kids to Europe.

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    Its a business and the NBA is doing what it feels it needs to do to keep their product on top.

    I can see more and more H.S kids leaving overseas though. I wouldn't mind being an agent and sending kids to Europe.
    If you're an agent you make more money that way. By the way, the Euroleague needs to throw that Max of 3 Americans on the team rule away.

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    I have explain this so many times here and some stupid people cannot understand. They do PAY tax but you stupid idiots cannot understand simple concept.

    Salary is AFTER TAX. No tax salary in Europe mean AFTER TAX salary. How many time do idiots here need be explain this? I am not sorry for talk this way because after maybe 20 posts try explain this still idiots is not able understand such simple thing.
    ROFL. It doesn't matter. If the Greek team pays a US citizen an amount to cover US taxes then that is taxable too, as well as the "net pay." Better yet, if the Greek team is paying Greek taxes for that US citizen (which seems to be what you are claiming. It, of course, is not clear due your utter inability to express yourself clearly) then the citizen may have to pay US taxes on those payments.

    Stupid idiot.
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    I think Delfino takes the money in Europe. Just like Anthony Parker.

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    Before I forget, the Greek league is a refuge for whiny es who can't cut it in the NBA.

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    Before I forget, the Greek league is a refuge for whiny es who can't cut it in the NBA.
    C'mon MB....you know that every Greek player is better than any US player!

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    If you're an agent you make more money that way. By the way, the Euroleague needs to throw that Max of 3 Americans on the team rule away.
    In Greece can only have 2 Americans. I am not sure about other countries.

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    ROFL. It doesn't matter. If the Greek team pays a US citizen an amount to cover US taxes then that is taxable too, as well as the "net pay." Better yet, if the Greek team is paying Greek taxes for that US citizen (which seems to be what you are claiming. It, of course, is not clear due your utter inability to express yourself clearly) then the citizen may have to pay US taxes on those payments.

    Stupid idiot.
    Are you stupid? YES YOU ARE STUPID.

    No tax salary in Europe mean AFTER TAX. Are you really this dumb? Tax rate is 40% in Greece. In US when you get pay check you get amount after taxes. But when your salary is report is report as gross not after tax. You not actual make 30,000 your boss just say this. But when you get checks is not 30,000.

    Players is pay tax and yes stupid US government is also get their tax from players. But you to stupid to understand such simple thing. When salary is report in Europe is AFTER TAX.

    Amount of pay check is SAME amount that is report in press. In NBA amount of pay check is maybe half what is report in press because is NOT after tax but before.

    If you cannot still understand this you are very dumb. Sorry, but is true.

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    The Euro teams already know the tax rates and policies for the US and each individual state and factors that into every stated salary for American players?

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    Delfino is a BUM!!! Reminds me of Jon Barry.
    I'd love it if the Spurs signed Delfino and he played like an athletic Jon Barry.

    Jon Barry was a pretty good player in his day.

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    Players is pay tax and yes stupid US government is also get their tax from players. But you to stupid to understand such simple thing. When salary is report in Europe is AFTER TAX.
    Yawn.

    You've claimed again and again, implicitly, that American players are not subject to US federal income taxation when they play for a European team (ie your claim that a 26 mil euro contract "NET" is equivalent to US$73 million as 'the European team pays the player's taxes').

    Sorry, that's not the case.

    And to top it off, you are a gigantic . Greek basketball is dog . One of the greatest players in Greek basketball history ran home with his tail between his legs because he couldn't hack it in the NBA.

    Go yourself.

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    By the way, the Euroleague needs to throw that Max of 3 Americans on the team rule away.

    There isn't a limit a quota for American players in Eurolegaue.
    An Euroleague team can play with 5, 6 or more Americans players.

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    Yawn.

    You've claimed again and again, implicitly, that American players are not subject to US federal income taxation when they play for a European team (ie your claim that a 26 mil euro contract "NET" is equivalent to US$73 million as 'the European team pays the player's taxes').

    Sorry, that's not the case.

    And to top it off, you are a gigantic . Greek basketball is dog . One of the greatest players in Greek basketball history ran home with his tail between his legs because he couldn't hack it in the NBA.

    Go yourself.

    Damnt Pana now you got Marcus grumpy.

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    Yawn.

    You've claimed again and again, implicitly, that American players are not subject to US federal income taxation when they play for a European team (ie your claim that a 26 mil euro contract "NET" is equivalent to US$73 million as 'the European team pays the player's taxes').

    Sorry, that's not the case.

    And to top it off, you are a gigantic . Greek basketball is dog . One of the greatest players in Greek basketball history ran home with his tail between his legs because he couldn't hack it in the NBA.

    Go yourself.

    You must have brain damage. Do you understand easiest of things? US media reports sports salary as GROSS number. Ones report in Europe is NET number. The tax is already pay. It is like talking to a baby.

    You make this post here and it not even make sense. You are not even talking about same subject. What is this "US players pays tax" crap? Who say they not pay tax? Salary number for media in Europe includes after tax was already paid.

    How hard is this understand? It means they do NOT pay taxes on number mention by media. Why would they pay taxes twice? So American player pay two times to Greece and US so he pay taxes 4 times? You are joke.

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    ROFL. The "NET" # is net of Greek, Italian, etc...tax. Uncle Sam still wants his cut.

    You are a joke if you think someone offered Anthony Parker seventy-three million dollars.

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    How does a Euro team pay an American player's federal and state income taxes before his tax burdens for each is even calculated?

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    How does a Euro team pay an American player's federal and state income taxes before his tax burdens for each is even calculated?
    Greeks, man. They're all gods.

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    You must have brain damage. Do you understand easiest of things? US media reports sports salary as GROSS number. Ones report in Europe is NET number. The tax is already pay. It is like talking to a baby.

    You make this post here and it not even make sense. You are not even talking about same subject. What is this "US players pays tax" crap? Who say they not pay tax? Salary number for media in Europe includes after tax was already paid.

    How hard is this understand? It means they do NOT pay taxes on number mention by media. Why would they pay taxes twice? So American player pay two times to Greece and US so he pay taxes 4 times? You are joke.
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are a funny dude!!!!!!! i can imagine u actually saying those words out loud. u remind me of a friend i had in college from serbia...

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    Greeks, man. They're all gods.

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