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people said they would never be another david robinson in sa then they got duncan
Found the numbers and did the simple calculations myself:
All five games in WCF:
Manu averaged 12.6 pts/ game, 3.2 rebounds/ game, 3 assists/ game, had a ulative +/- of -9, shot 35.8% from the floor, including 36 % from 3.
Take away the one good game Manu had (game 3) and Manu's stats are unbelievably bad:
Manu, then, averaged: 7.2 pts/game, 3.5 rebounds/game, 3.5 assists/game, had a ulative +/- of -26, shot 26.3% from the floor including 22 % from 3.
really maybe he really really sucked
wtf this is the western confress you do not suck that bad period
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people said they would never be another david robinson in sa then they got duncan
yeah find players that can play more then 29 minutes in the nba is hard that still have stuff int eh tank in june
wow its crazy to think I will be cheering for Kobe instead of Manu this summer
I think it's fine Manu wants to play. He is loyal to his country. Good for him. He is not showing the Spurs the same loyalty, but it is business. His country is his home and love. Spurs could trade him away if they want, they do not have to show him any loyalty either. If they are truly upset with him, and think that playing in the summer is a mistake, then they have the right to do something about it. I am glad they are holding back on the contract extenstion.
. . . that does what Manu does for the amount of money Manu makes . . . yes it is hard to find, you moron.
Name one, you twit.
Last edited by smeagol; 07-06-2008 at 03:36 PM.
Easily. Us playing with an injured Manu is like the Lakers playing the 4th without Kobe.
Manu CAN get on Kobe's level during clutch time. Fact.
Robinson and Duncan are pretty different
Manu should play, he is huge in Argentina, and he understands that him playing keeps the $$$ rolling in and his status in Argentina as a top commercial guy intact.
Plus he wants to represent his country, good for him....
Funny how no one was complaining about him playing in the WCF on that sprained ankle.....
Manu is a warrior, he is going to play....good for him.
DD
Everyone saw he clearly needed rest, but unless he blows up for 30 in Game 3, we probably don't even win one. Proof of how much Manu means to this team?
that is why getting smith or mag is so important
If the SPurs trade Manu, they can get much better players than Smith or Mag.
You should lobby for that.
I would take smith over many players
he is exactly what the spurs need
get smith and draft picks
smith is not a gunner he shots 9 shots a game and averages 17 points a game
and shots a very good %
also is good in playoffs
he is alot like manu except is he younger and not as development
Yes, Smith is a lot like Manu. He did great in 2007 against the Spurs when Karl though him under the bus for racking those ill-advised shots
manu shots more ill advised shots then smith
and karl is not a good coach
he has no clue what an ill advised shot is
yeah that foul on manu in game 7 was so smart with so little time on the clockYes, Smith is a lot like Manu. He did great in 2007 against the Spurs when Karl though him under the bus for racking those ill-advised shots
and those so called ill advised shots were not that bad
the dude shots a great %
I know. Manu sucks. Time to trade manu, heh ducks?
That would make you happy . . .
spurs can not afford to pay as much as they do to manu and not have him ready in the playoffs
the summer time he is suppose to rest
he was tired in the wcf in case you did not know that
if spurs can get close to = talent for him you have to think about it
he is not getting any younger and is going to have to reduce his minutes even more
manu did not average that many more points then jr smith
Fact is that you're not going to be able to get anyone for Manu that does as much for this team. You underestimate how much Ginobili contributes to creating offense and more importantly his intangibles.
The team would be worse off. There is no doubt in my mind.
Manu is still a top 5-7 shooting guard in this league. Respect dat.
If you guys traded Manu, you would not be a championship team....he is the one guy that teams fear on the perimeter, a lot more than Parker....Manu hits the big shots, forces the action and is one of the top SGs in the league, I would consider trading Tmac for him but if you guys are smart, you wouldn't.
DD
Where does he rank with a bum ankle?
I agree when he is on, he is a 5-7 shooting guard in the league, in the Spurs' system. Imagine how his development would have been stunted had he been playing next to Me-Me-Me Bryant instead of Robinson and Duncan!
But there's also no denying that his bad games impact the team negatively. It would be different if he were a non-factor, but crucial turnovers, impulsive decision-making and ill advised shots cost the Spurs at times. I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
Wow. You are really comparing a 3 time NBA Champion, Olympic Gold Medalist, All-Star, and barely NBA MVP Finals (2 votes away) for a guy that can't even start in Denver? I mean, you clearly hate Manu, but THAT much?
The reason we need Magette and Smith is because Manu has to play extended minutes, simply because Finley plainly sucked, and Barry was injured. I'm going to make it real clear to you, for all your ing, if we don't have Manu last year, we don't make the playoffs. Yeah, with Duncan and Parker, and we still miss them. So the first thing you can start doing is giving credit where credit is due. Just amazing what short memory you have.
He was injured AND tired, because he's been bailing us out throughout the entire season. You want a fresh Manu in the playoffs? Get a freaking bench!
It was a tight race this year in the Western Conference, but it may be reaching to say that no Manu, no playoffs. Without Ginobili, who knows how the rest of the team may have played. Maybe some players would have stepped up. The Butterfly Effect makes it difficult to assess what would have happened. All we can do is look at his performance in the regular season, which was quite good, and his performance in the playoffs, which ranged from awesome to not so good.
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