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The deal is 5 yrs/82M? Weren't the Warriors offering him a lot more than that?
Well, yeah, there was Teddy Pendergrass but then, well, . . .There's more to Philly than Rocky you know?
Just wait till she finds the other thread.....I heard he's a big fan of cheesesteaks.
The deal is 5 yrs/82M? Weren't the Warriors offering him a lot more than that?
This said he was LEANING towards signing with the Sixers, but I just heard on ESPN that he's actually verbally accepted their offer.
It was the same, I believe.
Ah, in that case I can understand the attraction of Philly over Cali
Especially since they were scrambling around for a trade to give him that extra money.Ah, in that case I can understand the attraction of Philly over Cali
I always disliked Carney, so I didn't mind
wow im shocked.
Don't be so sure buddy boy, with all that money they just threw at Brand combined with the fact that Andre already turned down a contract extension for 55 million dollars, means that Philly is running out of money. Some one can offer him big dollars that Philly might not match...
http://www.the700level.com/2008/05/has-andre-iguod.html
The Spurs better hope that Davis changes his mind and heads back to Golden State somehow. If his agent can somehow manage that, maybe Maggette doesn't sign there.......man that sounds pathetic.....nevermind...
It's theoretically possible for the Sixers to let AI2 walk but posting a blog entry from May 2nd isn't going to change many opinions.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ncy/index.html
The Sixers should vault forward in the East with clever Brand signing
Ian Thomsen
There was one difference-maker on the free-agent market this summer. He was Elton Brand, and the news emerging Tuesday of his agreement to sign with the 76ers may turn out to be the biggest player move of the offseason. (Unless the Cavaliers unload a blockbuster trade involving their $30 million in expiring contracts.)
In the bigger picture, however, Brand isn't likely to win a championship for the young 76ers next season -- or the year thereafter. As surprising as the last week has been, none of the agreements reached thus far is likely to affect the makeup of the NBA's final four next May.
With that in mind, let's look at the teams that have benefited from this free-agent period -- taking into account that many more moves are still to be made.
TEAMS WITH THE MOST TO GAIN FROM FREE AGENCY
1. Philadelphia 76ers -- One big move -- and only one -- made exquisite sense for the 76ers: Use their cap space to land Brand, the perfect fit to fill their hole at power forward, give them veteran leadership and enhance their up-tempo style. A lineup built around Brand, Andre Iguodala and point guard Andre Miller could challenge for homecourt advantage in the first round next season -- while enabling young talents like Thaddeus Young, Lou Williams and rookie Marreese Speights to improve in a hospitable environment.
One alternative to signing Brand was for the Sixers to make an offer big and front-loaded enough to pry restricted free agent Josh Smith away from Atlanta. But imagine starting a new era with Smith and Iguodala as your max players: Smith, 22, hasn't established the self-discipline to manage the responsibility of being the highest-paid player in a market like Philadelphia. And whatever salary Smith might have received from the 76ers would have served as a new threshold for Iguodala, who would have demanded even more as a restricted free agent.
The other option was to trade for a young but experienced power forward like Chris Wilcox, Channing Frye, Charlie Villanueva or (don't laugh) Zach Randolph, any of whom would have improved the Sixers next season. By making the trade with Minnesota earlier this week to clear more cap space for Brand, the Sixers boldly acquired a true No. 1 player who enables Iguodala to be a secondary star. Had Brand remained in Los Angeles and succeeded in doubling last season's 23 wins, the Clippers still wouldn't be a playoff team in the West. By moving to the East instead, he needs to only incite a six-win improvement to give 40-win Philadelphia a shot at homecourt advantage in the first round next season. They still could use more shooting, however.
2. Washington Wizards -- They made quick work of re-signing Antawn Jamison, and the negotiations with fellow free agent Gilbert Arenas were surprisingly low-maintenance (or so they appeared), as he resisted the wanderlust that drew Davis to the Clippers.
This is a team of three All-Stars and quite a bit of young talent -- plus they have a few million dollars extra to sign a role player or two before training camp. If they could benefit from the good fortune of a healthy season, the Wizards could make a deep playoff run -- in which case they'll look back on the quiet success of their negotiations this summer.
3. Atlanta Hawks -- With Philadelphia out of the running for Smith, the Hawks must wait to see if he receives a big offer from the Clippers; if not, then they can offer Smith -- without compe ion -- a reasonable, less-than-max contract with an opt-out, so that if he feels slighted by this contract, then at least he'll be able to re-enter the market in a few years.
By signing Smith at a reasonable number and retaining fellow restricted free agent Josh Childress (who has commanded a lot of interest from teams in the range of the mid-level exception), the Hawks might have enough leftover money to add another role player via free agency. Which would position them to make the playoffs for a second straight year.
TEAMS WITH THE MOST TO LOSE
1. Los Angeles Clippers -- The loss of Brand is a shocker, but let's congratulate the Clippers for making the effort. Owner Donald T. Sterling stunned the market by signing Baron Davis as a surprise free agent, in hopes of pairing him with Brand at no small price.
But now they're without Brand and Corey Maggette, who was expected to sign with the Warriors.
The Clippers could try to fill Brand's position by making a run at Smith, though the Hawks have promised to match any offer. They could go after another restricted free agent like Nenad Krstic (or Iguodala of the Sixers, if they wish for revenge) or they could trade for frontcourt help.
A team led by Davis and center Chris Kaman is going to have a hard time challenging for the playoffs in the West. A week ago, the Clippers looked to be on the move; now they're back in trouble. Again.
2. Golden State Warriors -- By reportedly agreeing to terms with Maggette, at least they didn't come away empty after losing Davis to the Clippers. But Davis was their engine, a physically dominant point guard who bullied the opposition. Will restricted free agent Monta Ellis provide as much leadership on the floor? The Warriors have a lot of perimeter talent, but who will drive them? Much as the Clippers suffered a reduction in talent by losing Brand, so have the Warriors been diminished by the departure of Davis.
3. Boston Celtics -- If the Celtics don't re-sign James Posey, will they be able to repeat as champions? They couldn't have won the le without him this season. It's very difficult to believe they will let him walk, giving his importance as a finishing piece to their three expensive stars. But if he were to go, they wouldn't be nearly so strong next season.
What does the date of the blog have to do with the facts presented. I can post you a link for multiple stories about:
AI declining a 55 MILLION DOLLAR EXTENSION, which would have paid him 11 million a year because he expected more from either Philly or FA.
With Phillies cap space being eaten up by Brands 14-15 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT, how will they have enough cap room to sign AI to the amount he wants? He is definitely not taking less than the previous extension offer. That would be like believing Maggette would except the MLE...
Philly does not have unlimited money, they seem like they have made their decision or they are hoping no one will try and make an offer to AI, either way a dangerous game is being played. You can not alienate your players, that is why teams like Washington step up and offer contracts to guys like Arenas. That is why teams like the Warriors who do not step up, lose their best players like Baron Davis...
They have his Bird rights and can pay him whatever they want.
You can not pay him what ever you want....they can not pay him max money without going into luxury tax
Yes they can. His cap hold right now is $11.4M. There is a $12M+ buffer between the cap and the lux tax threshold. The Sixers have plenty of room to sign him to a max deal if they so choose.
those two sentences dont have anything in common. while its unlikely they go above the tax line, they can still do if they want to. they can offer AI2 whatever they want to.
and who is going to be spending max dollars on AI2? id could see him behind both josh smith and monta ellis for many teams. and that still leaves players like deng, biendris, and gordon that might see some interest from the teams with cap space left.
im too lazy to crunch the numbers, but after current events, only memphis and the clippers have any significant space right now, no?
There is no way they match a 15 million dollar offer for AI, and like I said he turned down an 11 million dollar offer. If the 76'ers do not step up and offer him his money, he will just play out the remainder of his contract and walk for nothing next year...
whats the chances of gsw resignin barnes, kalenna, monta and the center?
man they got a big hole at PF though
Be sure to bump this when the Sixers re-sign AI2 and pay him more than the $11M per they offered him last summer.
Last edited by timvp; 08-13-2008 at 03:52 AM.
If no one makes a run at AI then they will not pay him more, if he gets offered too much, lets say 15 mil a year, I do not think they match..
It is my assessment of the situation, I would like you to be held accountable for all the things you have said, but I guess you have never been wrong, so your good...
Good point
Wow that's a pretty good deal.. And the Sixers are getting better and better so if they get brand they might be on a good role
As a Sixers fan good news and Clippers weaker as well.
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