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    Neither team will go after him, G State must keep its own FAs and they already have a glut at the wing, and the Clips just drafted SG with the 7th pick so I dont think smith has many teams that will be after him, Houston maybe, San Ant maybe, thats it!

    Are you the agent that Kori was warning us about?


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    How Lakers fans can possibly talk smack after seeing their hero get raped in the ass on national television by 39 POINTS is beyond me.

    And with the ease Ray Allen got to the hole against Sasha, it's now obvious to all that a healthy Manu would've tore though the Laker defense like Kobe does to white female hotel employees.

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    DARK TIMES IN SAN ANTONIO
    Nah, dark times is knowing your team isn't good enough to ever win a championship with Kobe Bryant.

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    double owned!!!!!!!!!!!

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    The Lakers are good enough to win with Kobe. Do you really think last season was their best shot? Get real.

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    dude if we cant even get JRSMITH

    might as well give him the MLE, just to see DENVER match it too put them over the luxury tax....

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    The Lakers are good enough to win with Kobe.
    When did losing a series 4-1 become winning? Because last time I checked, since Kobe became the sole player in LA, he has lead the Lakers to no playoffs, first round exit, first round exit and a finals lose with PAU GASOL.

    Yeah... they're "good enough."

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    When did losing a series 4-1 become winning? Because last time I checked, since Kobe became the sole player in LA, he has lead the Lakers to no playoffs, first round exit, first round exit and a finals lose with PAU GASOL.

    Yeah... they're "good enough."
    They lost 4-2 to the Celtics. Your Spurs lost to the Lakers 4-1.

    The last 3 seasons Kobe has had absolute garbage teammates whilst LAL was in rebuilding mode. Nobody could have taken a team starting Kwame Brown and Smush Parker anywhere in the playoffs. The fact that they made the playoffs is a testament to how unbelievable Kobe was during those years.

    They made it to the Finals the 1st season Kobe finally had some real help around him. All this without their starting Center Andrew Bynum. The Lakers are in great shape, Kobe did a phenomenal job of leading the team this year throughout the various roster changes and injuries that came to key players. Anyone who believes otherwise is simply a Kobe-hater, which is understandable because he single-handedly destroyed your team in the playoffs.

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    Listen you guys, the Spurs need to inject some kind of youth or atleast excitement to the team.

    It's really hard watching Boston and LA adding pieces for next to nothing and go on to good things. If i were RC i'd realize that we dont have a 1st round draft pick next year and figure out we need to make this 09 season happen or TP is and the rest are going to realize what we have to work with...

    Offer Sasha or Jr or Hayes 3 -4 million and get some new blood...

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    They lost 4-2 to the Celtics. Your Spurs lost to the Lakers 4-1.

    The last 3 seasons Kobe has had absolute garbage teammates whilst LAL was in rebuilding mode. Nobody could have taken a team starting Kwame Brown and Smush Parker anywhere in the playoffs. The fact that they made the playoffs is a testament to how unbelievable Kobe was during those years.

    They made it to the Finals the 1st season Kobe finally had some real help around him. All this without their starting Center Andrew Bynum. The Lakers are in great shape, Kobe did a phenomenal job of leading the team this year throughout the various roster changes and injuries that came to key players. Anyone who believes otherwise is simply a Kobe-hater, which is understandable because he single-handedly destroyed your team in the playoffs.
    The fact that I said the Lakers aren't ever winning with Kobe seems to have flew over your pea size brain and head. I never denied his accomplishments this season. I said he'd never win anything, nor the Lakers.

    All you've done is establish that.

    FYI, what single handedly destroyed the Spurs was Manu's injuries.

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    The fact of the matter is, whether Bynum was there or not, was that Kobe had by far enough talent to win that finals and he flat out choked. His team quit. No other team had the luxury of having a major player hurt (Bynum) and getting an all-star (Gasol) to fill in. Lakers were in first in the West when Bynum went down, meaning they were in contention to win. They got a more than capable replacement in due time with Gasol and had a great year, but lost in the finals. Do not give me that bull that it did not matter, or you did not expect them to win. Getting Gasol and Bynum next year is a ing bonus, but does not mask the fact Kobe, with "bullets" as he so succinctly put it could not get it done.

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    Lakers are a great team, but won't win a championship with Gasol at center. He's too soft and won't hedge and hard screen!


    He kept letting Pierce into the paint!



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    All this talk about kobe and gasol and bynum is masked by the fact that some idiot that started this thread thinks JR Smith is the key to the Spurs winning another le. Get ing real, please.

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    All this talk about kobe and gasol and bynum is masked by the fact that some idiot that started this thread thinks JR Smith is the key to the Spurs winning another le. Get ing real, please.
    That's true, JR Smith isn't the key. Manu, Tim and Tony are.

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    He is not the key, but could be an integral part of the process, especially if he takes it upon himself to defend, like when he got mad a Kobe. Even though Kobe torched him in the playoffs, he did not back down and took the challenge when no one else would. I am sure he has the feeling that he does not want to get torched again...

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    and with the Spurs, he would have people to back his ass up.

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    Maggette wasn't a realistic option at the start of the offseason. Spurs are basically in the same situation than before the offseason.

    Things haven't gone worse, for the moment...
    Exactly. Everyone got all excited about Maggette and forgot that this is the Spurs... how long have y'all been Spurs fans? We rarely make a splash in the FA market.

    There will be a few smart additions from here on in, and the swingman will be from the list we've all been discussing for a month... Aza, Barnes, Delfino, etc. (personally, I think JR is unlikely).

    I'm staying away from ST until it's all settled because I can't stand the over-the-top sky-is-falling bull that overtakes so many fans of all teams at this time of year.

    It's out of our hands - lets just trust that our FO guys know what they are doing. 3 rings in 6 years tells me they're pretty decent at their jobs.

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    ...this leaves San Antonio and Boston with their full mid-level exceptions in play. Both teams will likely give a look at Celtics free agent James Posey, and the Spurs will likely look at Nuggets restricted free agent J.R. Smith, whom the Spurs have had interest in for several years.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...state-warriors

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    All this talk about kobe and gasol and bynum is masked by the fact that some idiot that started this thread thinks JR Smith is the key to the Spurs winning another le. Get ing real, please.
    Like somebody else said, he obviously isn't the key (manu, tony, and tim are), but he fills a hole that needs to be filled desperately on this team.

    Somebody like JR Smith instead of Michael Finley would have had the Spurs in the Finals this past year.

    , the guy averaged 12.3ppg coming off the ing bench last year and only playing 19.2MPG. He shot 41% from the field and 40% from 3 point range.

    That's Manu'esque.
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    Exactly. Everyone got all excited about Maggette and forgot that this is the Spurs... how long have y'all been Spurs fans? We rarely make a splash in the FA market.

    There will be a few smart additions from here on in, and the swingman will be from the list we've all been discussing for a month... Aza, Barnes, Delfino, etc. (personally, I think JR is unlikely).

    I'm staying away from ST until it's all settled because I can't stand the over-the-top sky-is-falling bull that overtakes so many fans of all teams at this time of year.

    It's out of our hands - lets just trust that our FO guys know what they are doing. 3 rings in 6 years tells me they're pretty decent at their jobs.
    Althought I don't completely disagree with you the Spurs were fortunate with their drafting and what was once a very dominate team that could easily skate by each summer by adding small pieces is now getting older. They haven't struck lightning in the draft recently and still after all this time can't land tier 1 or tier 2 FA. Adding small pieces isn't going to result in any better success next season. If they can't find some youth they might be forced to bite the bullet and make a trade because thats all thats left.

    In particularly this year with the Olympics because I don't see an aging team having any better legs late in the post season.

    I don't believe the sky is falling and this team as it sits will compete but they won't contend with out change. You can't ride it forever you have to grow and this team has been stagnant for about two years.

    I also think the 2010 plan is horse . They should jocky more for trading position than FA's position. How many times do they need to see FA not sign here to realize that clearing cap space for max players isn't the answer.

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    , I don't know - they sign some scrubs for the minimum. They are already at $76M without matching Smith and the Luxury Tax Threshold will probably be $71-72M.
    They could pull off some kind of trade so there could be easier to smith.

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    Were we a better team last year than the year before?

    Were other teams in the West-- such as LA, Houston, etc.-- better last year than the year before?

    Are other teams in the West getting markedly better this year through draft, trades and FAs?

    Can the Spurs win the West without getting better this year, eg. was last year bad luck with injuries and we can get by withthe status quo?

    In my opinion, we have to get markedly better to stay in the hunt and the FAs still available are either unlikely to fall to us or not what we need.

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    When did losing a series 4-1 become winning? Because last time I checked, since Kobe became the sole player in LA, he has lead the Lakers to no playoffs, first round exit, first round exit and a finals lose with PAU GASOL.

    Yeah... they're "good enough."

    LeBron took the Celtics to 7 games with a lesser supporting cast and coach.

    LeBron>Kobe

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    I'd like to JR.Smith play for spurs!

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    They could pull off some kind of trade so there could be easier to smith.
    With who? Pretty much every team is now over the cap (besides the clippers who likely don't want any of the Thuggets) which means teams would have to send back equal value.

    Of course, Denver could take a small trade exception in exchange for Kleiza, but that isn't going to happen.

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