JR Smith: The Remainder of the Tim Duncan Era Hangs in Limbo

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With who? Pretty much every team is now over the cap (besides the clippers who likely don't want any of the Thuggets) which means teams would have to send back equal value.

Of course, Denver could take a small trade exception in exchange for Kleiza, but that isn't going to happen.

Try to get them coming and going - Put a full MLE bid in for Smith, and then offer them the Beno TE for Kleiza... Either would work our pretty well for us.

[callo1]

Any team with a Duncan, Parker and Ginobili together is a serious contender. Acting like its JR Smith or SA will not contend for anything the rest of the Duncan era is bull

I couldn't agree more.

Some of you doom and gloomers crack me up

I really like Azubuike more than Smith, but Smith would probably help the Spurs more because of his ability to shoot the three. Smith never met a shot he didn't like, and I wonder how his game would translate in a Spurs uniform. On one hand, we have always had trouble in the TD era with new players not being agressive and being timid in trying to fit into the offense, so maybe Smith would be great, on the other hand, if he jacks up some of that crap he did in Denver, Pops head would explode.

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All this talk about kobe and gasol and bynum is masked by the fact that some idiot that started this thread thinks JR Smith is the key to the Spurs winning another le. Get ing real, please.

[hater]

JR = Overrated

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JR = Overrated

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

[TJastal]

I couldn't agree more.

Some of you doom and gloomers crack me up

I really like Azubuike more than Smith, but Smith would probably help the Spurs more because of his ability to shoot the three. Smith never met a shot he didn't like, and I wonder how his game would translate in a Spurs uniform. On one hand, we have always had trouble in the TD era with new players not being agressive and being timid in trying to fit into the offense, so maybe Smith would be great, on the other hand, if he jacks up some of that crap he did in Denver, Pops head would explode.

You people really need to follow your hearts, and quit listening to that idiot box in your head that's telling you to sign the likes of JR Smith and Ron Artest

Fuggetabou already, neither of those guys are gonna do jack in a spurs uniform. Azubuike otoh, will.

[Mr. Body]

JR Smith is the most overrated would-be Spurs savior of all time. Even more than Ira Newble circa 2002.

[Taking it to the Hole]

I just got a weird feeling every free agent is going to blow us off this offseason. We won't get JR Smith just like we didn't get Maggette. These guys want to get paid, not win, that is the bottom line. And this is the first place you come if you want to win and the last place you come to if you want to get paid. It probably is better this way. Things tend to unfold as they should.

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I just got a weird feeling every free agent is going to blow us off this offseason. We won't get JR Smith just like we didn't get Maggette. These guys want to get paid, not win, that is the bottom line. And this is the first place you come if you want to win and the last place you come to if you want to get paid. It probably is better this way. Things tend to unfold as they should.

Odds are pretty good JR is going to get paid exactly the same regardless of where he goes.

[50 cent]

I think JR could potentially be the most underrated and overrated Spur (if he comes) all at the same time!

[AFBlue]

I'm looking for ANY actual news on this guy and I find nada....nothing but speculation. And I'm not even limiting my search to the Spurs.

What's the deal.....Does no team have the balls to test the Nuggets FO? Does any team think JR is worth it?

[Budkin]

Anyone we sign will be underrated and everyone that we don't will be overrated.

[DPG21920]

Here is an interesting blog with some nice facts about teams that offer QO's to rookies coming off their contracts....Maybe this is a sign that J.R. is there for the taking

http://www.blogabull.com/2008/7/9/56...ng-offer-and-y


The Qualifying Offer and you

Blogabull_s_tiny by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 9, 2008 10:27 AM CDT

There's been a lot of comments lately regarding Deng&Gordon and the Qualifying Offer without realizing how poor an option that is for both sides.

First of all, it makes the player believe he's not coming back, and the team treating the player like they're not coming back. Maybe it's a self-fufilling prophecy, but it's borne out that they don't come back. (thanks to paxson43 in the comments)

Follow that link: since 2000, there's only been 4 players coming off their rookie-scale contracts that signed the QO. That's 4 out of 124 eligible draftees. All of them (with Pietrus signing yesterday) wound up on other teams, and only (in the case of Radmanovic) was the team able to deal the player in that season for something (Chris Wilcox).

And it's hard to deal a player under the QO because: " if the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract, he can't be traded without his consent. If consent is granted and the player is traded, then he loses his Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, and enters free agency as a Non-Bird free agent."

The Bird rights are basically a team's ability to go over the salary cap to sign their own free agents. With the way the capped-out NBA is, that's the only way for many of these players to get above the mid-level, either with their own team or through sign/trade.

So, just a reminder when bringing it up: the QO is really a last-resort option, and pretty much a failure in negotiation.

[Tully365]

Fixed.

Obviously I didn't call for the big 3 to be traded. So your solution is "do nothing"?

[xtremesteven33]

i really dont see a big need for someone like JR Smith on our team.

[nil.ball]

brent barry playing with one arm tied behind his back has a better efficiency rating than JR smith.

[xtremesteven33]

Azubuike and Barry are my main guys right now

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Azubuike and Barry are my main guys right now

That would be a pretty good offseason.

[Indazone]

The only thing the Spurs need is a starting calibur Center. Make Oberto your backup and you are set to go. Everyone else in the Spurs lineup is a high calibur player. Bowen is a defensive stalwart so you need him. Duncan, Manu, Parker are all really good. Your bench is a bit weak so I'd look at improving the bench and getting a really good Center. If you had some cap space imagine what Okafor would look like playing next to Duncan.

[DPG21920]

JR Smith is 10 times the player Azubuike is, he has a skill set that even if Azubuike worked his ass of for 10 years could never achieve. Buike is a hard worker but does not solve our need for scoring and/or defense at the 2/3 position.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

JR Smith is 10 times the player Azubuike is, he has a skill set that even if Azubuike worked his ass of for 10 years could never achieve. Buike is a hard worker but does not solve our need for scoring and/or defense at the 2/3 position.

Outside of JR shooting about 4% better from three, Kelenna's stats are basically a carbon copy of JR's, with double the blocks per game to boot in Kelenna's favor.

He's also a better defender than Smith (or at least, has shown a higher propensity for playing it).

I hate it when people talk out their ass to run a player down just because they haven't heard of a guy, or because said player is in a comparison with someone whose name is more recognizeable to them.

Kelenna doesn't need to work his ass off, if you told him to be a ball hog and shoot it every time he got the rock you'd have J.R. Smith without the ty at ude.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Damn, can the Spurs just in sign Kelenna already?

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i really dont see a big need for someone like JR Smith on our team.

yeah beings manu plays 40 minutes a game

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does jr really have a ty at ude?
he had problems in the past but last year melo had the problems on that team not jr

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i really dont see a big need for someone like JR Smith on our team.

did you watch the wcf?