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    I said 3 people on here were elitist: TPark, Aggie and Manny, that is all. Most people are cool.

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    * Called certain people re s

    * Insinuated he was smarter than me because I'm an Aggie

    * Calls the whole board elitist

    Yep, no hypocrisy in his comments...
    Time to update that sig.

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    I hope mason tears it up.

    Agreed

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    Roger Mason's New Tattoo
    Wizards guard Roger Mason Jr. unveiled his new tattoo yesterday, which runs all up and down his left upper arm and shoulder.

    "That's blazin'," DeShawn Stevenson said when he first saw it.


    The full image from a distance. (By Sports Bog)I guess I knew that Roger had been thinking of getting a new tattoo to honor his father, although I had forgotten. Flash back to the first day of training camp in Richmond, when Roger's place on the team was not yet secured, and when I wrote this:

    Roger Mason Jr. wants to get a second tattoo in honor of his deceased father, but he's going to wait until he makes the roster. "Hopefully," he said, correcting himself. That's confidence, though; planning out which tattoo to get on day one of training camp.
    Here's the fuller story. When his father was ill before passing away in 1991, the family took comfort in reciting Psalms 46 together in the hospital. Roger went through the first two verses for me last night:

    God is our refuge and strength,
    a very present help in trouble.

    Therefore we will not fear,
    though the earth be removed,
    and though the mountains be carried into the depths of the sea;
    For several years he's planned to get a tattoo, inspired by those verses, in his father's memory. He actually met with his tattoo artist, Grant Cobb from Tattoo Paradise in Adams Morgan, more than a year ago to discuss his ideas, but he wanted to wait until he was sure he knew exactly what he wanted. He originally wanted the centerpiece to be the mountains being carried into the sea, accompanied by a hovering angel praying. Grant suggested the foreground be more angel and less mountain, so that there would be a central figure to carry the image.

    Grant read the verses himself to get his own ideas, and then he made a sketch, and then made another sketch this winter when Roger decided he was ready, and then they revised the sketch together, and then this week they got it done in a four-and-a-half hour session, which is about as long as Grant will let a client go at one sitting.

    "He sat there like a champ," Grant said when I talked with him this afternoon. "Most of these rock stars and athletes, they're all kind of on their own schedule, but Roger was real cool, real professional, right on time."


    The angel, up close. (By Sports Bog)Anyhow, the top of the image near the shoulder has sort of a Renaissance-inspired fresco border. The waves are "Japanese-style finger waves," which hold up well on the body and are easy to read. The angel's torso was based on a Michelangelo sculpture. Grant usually uses the Old Masters when sketching angels, but this angel's face was made to look ethnically ambiguous instead of clasically Italian; "we wanted a face that was not a social statement, very much a religious statement and all encompassing," he explained. "All God's children, so to speak." The bottom reads "Psalms 46." On paper, the entire image measured something like 7 inches by 15 inches.

    "There's references from five different centuries and three or four different genres of art," Grant said. "It was something that kind of needed some work, but it means a lot to him, it was real personal....It was really cool to be able to do something like that for him."

    The original idea included the words of the scripture as part of the image, but they ran out of space, and so eventually Roger might get the words inked on the inside of his arm. Grant, by the way, has done work for plenty of celebs: Game, the Madden brothers from Good Charlotte, lead singer Chris Carrabba from the Dashboard Confessionals, All-American Rejects drummer Chris Gaylor, etc. And Roger, who is possibly the nicest athlete I've ever dealt with, said that while some other Wizards are now thinking about using Grant in the near future and while everyone who's seen his arm has been impressed with the artwork, that's not the important part.

    "Everybody loves it who sees it, but the meaning is what's important," Roger said. "That's why I got it."



    By Dan Steinberg | February 8, 2007; 3:41 PM ET | Category: Wizards

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcspo...ew_tattoo.html

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    Two pages ago you were going postal, now you're indifferent? Quit being such a drama queen
    Please point out where I went postal, please.....

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    The best the guy has ever done is 11 in 27 minutes.

    Give Mason 27 minutes a game and he'll put up more than 11.
    Not sure you could make money on that guarantee...

    I'm not trying to pimp Pietrus, but Mason may not be a double-digit scorer in this league. And the fact that he's not going to guard the SF position is also another minus.

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    Thats a badass tattoo.

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    Sweet!! A guy with a Tat!!!!

    We Ballin' Now Baby

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    * Called certain people re s

    * Insinuated he was smarter than me because I'm an Aggie

    * Calls the whole board elitist

    Yep, no hypocrisy in his comments...
    Agreed I should not have stooped to your level, but I did not call everyone an elitist, I only said re jokingly (with the I you re ed comment), and you and the other 3 I already mentioned tried to imply that I was dumb in all aspects of life because of the conversation. I said what I said in a joking matter in response, not to really try and get at anyone...you are the ones attacking...

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    Please point out where I went postal, please.....
    Don't be such a Literal McLiterstien.

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    A 4th scorer would be nice but we won in 07 with the 4th scorer, Finley with 9PPG in regular season and 11.5 in the Playoffs.

    The big question is. Can Roger Mason give us those numbers.

    Last season Finley scored 6.5 in the Playoffs
    Putting a team like the 07 team won't be good enough to win it all next year. Your making the mistake of believing every year is the same. Several teams are much stronger than they were in 07.

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    I said 3 people on here were elitist: TPark, Aggie and Manny, that is all. Most people are cool.
    actually you said:

    Why don't you read the comments before instead of taking it out of context. People on HERE are the ones that act like they are so smart and that no one should disagree with them. They are elitist and treat people with no respect. The ONLY reason I brought up my education was because he called me re ed and tried to imply I was stupid because of a Spurs forum thread. Check my threads, I have never treated people like they do, and I respect peoples opinions. I may disagree, but I never presume to make judgment calls on people and their life accomplishments based on basketball discussions.

    You didn't designate whom you felt was elitist, you implied the entire board. That's fine though if that is who you meant but by calling them elitist based on their actions at ST, isn't that making a judgement of them based on basketball discussions?

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    Totally agree. Mason will be a guy that can bring up the ball a lot so teams wont be able to just key on Tony after he gets past half-court.
    What I'm interested in seeing is how flexible defensively is he? Can he handle some of the big pgs a'la Deron or Billups? At least, there's a chance the Spurs won't have to hide him as much defensively as the older guards.

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    * Called certain people re s

    * Insinuated he was smarter than me because I'm an Aggie

    * Calls the whole board elitist

    Yep, no hypocrisy in his comments...
    Well, he may have a point on the Aggie thing.

    GO BAYLOR BEARS!!!!

    Nowhere to go but up baby!

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    People will jump on anyone claiming Finley still has game.
    I do not think that Finley would hurt the Spurs if you brought him back over Mason. That is my opinion. I trust Finley, seen him do it FOR THE SPURS. He helped in a vital role to win a championship, that is all....

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    I'm trying to take the optimistic line. I like Mason's game; he's not a bad player. But, uh, using that much of the MLE on him is worrisome and discouraging.

    But, I'm going to excercise a little patience. The Spurs might know something that we don't. And they might have something else up their sleave--a basement bargain, a Matt Bonner trade, use for the TE. We'll see.

    If we were able to sign Delfino or Allen, I'd feel a little better. Not earth shakers, I know. But a little more athleticism and youth to shore up the end of the bench would help.


    Because the Spurs FO used so much on Mason, I really think the Spurs are going to have to look to Hairston or another Summer League player to fill out the roster with athleticism and youth on the wing.

    Given this signing, I'll be watching the performance of Hairston closely during Summer League.

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    this isn't a bad move. any move to replace finley is fine with me. the problem with the spurs last year wasn't finley, it was the lack of scoring options when manu, parker, or duncan weren't on the court. that's why during the playoffs, pop always needed to leave at least one of these players in the game or the entire spurs offense would collapse. even with one of the three in play, the pressure is tremendous for him to score and the spurs offense would depend almost solely on that player. when one of them had an off day, no one was able to pick up the slack.

    if you think about it, the spurs have been subtly upgrading. replacing vaughn with hill, horry with mahinmi, and now mason with finley. if any of these players live up to expectations, the spurs offense will be saved. i mean how hard is it to replace vaughn's 4.1 points a game or horry's 2.5? now the spurs just have to resign brent barry to bring back some clutch and the spurs will be set.

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    sorry to interject amidst the "you're a re /no, YOU'RE the re " business going down here but, does anyone think this was a good signing ?

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    I won't jump on anyone but IMO, Finley is done. If I am wrong and he comes back with the Spurs and plays well, that's ok too.

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    So, they should go for a "name" this summer with no money to speak of, but it's foolish to do so in 2010?
    This is an ok signing game wise, but a very reasonable, low risk one financially. This was fair and low value for a player that will help you maintain where you were. We were not going to get anyone that would come in and provide that crazy Pau Gasol to the Lakers lift. That is just not realistic expectations. If he can come in and do what Finley did, we will be fine.

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    Pietrus is a below average player making the average salary this season and much more the following four years.

    We probably overpaid Mason, but we didn't ourselves paying the full MLE.
    Overpaid likely so that he'd take only 2 years.

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    I do not think that Finley would hurt the Spurs if you brought him back over Mason. That is my opinion. I trust Finley, seen him do it FOR THE SPURS. He helped in a vital role to win a championship, that is all....
    I know its hard to let go, but sometimes you just got to. He did help win a le, but so did Horry and that guys has nothing left either. If it came down to it, I would take the guy with youth and still a little bit of upside over the guy (who I hate to say because I love Fin), who hung on too long. the Spurs cant make the mistake of trying to get 82 games plus playoffs out of Fin. He is DONE.

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    I do not think that Finley would hurt the Spurs if you brought him back over Mason. That is my opinion. I trust Finley, seen him do it FOR THE SPURS. He helped in a vital role to win a championship, that is all....
    He was a turnstile defensively for the last three months of the season. Like I said, he was great back in the day. Lately, not so much.

    Avery, Jaren Jackson, and Will Perdue contributed to les at one time. Want them back too?

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    If Mason can score more consistently than Finley (not too difficult) and Hill can score more than Vaughn (again, not difficult), the Spurs should be in better shape--offensively--than this past season. And considering how well they did, this is not a disaster. Sure, it's not a big splash, but a nice ripple is all that's needed.

    Although there are still plenty of "ifs," the Spurs will contend this year once again. And if these new guys deliver, another le is not out of the question.

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    People always say our players are done and they notoriously bounce back (Finley in 06, Barry, Bowen...). I am not saying Finley can play forever, I am just saying in his role he can still do fine NEXT year imo. I do not think Mason is this massive upgrade and I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it..

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