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    Now fair is fair my chump dumping compadre ... you feel comfy with Fin taking that three with what's his face #21?
    Well, yeah -- definitely more comfortable than if he was play off Brendan Haywood! He always shot pretty well.

    I don't know why you are talking about Finley anymore.

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    I am good with Mason, I have said that, this whole thing started because I said I would be happier with Finley back, but they will play the same role and probably accomplish the same things...

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    He said plot a chart and it would go upward. It would be flat then go up last year.

    True, but at least its going somewhere. Finley flatlined.

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    A consistent problem for us were teams (NO and LAL) packing the paint, which complicated Tony and Manu's drives to the hole. 3pt shooting in the Playoffs is integral to breaking up the paint.

    Homeboy shot a whopping 24% against the Cavs from behind the arc. We paid 1/2 the MLE for 24% from behind the line.
    C'mon now, one series doesn't prove anything. Should the Cavs have traded Lebron after his shooting display in the finals last year?

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    Mason is an improving player who has only been in the leauge four years he will make us better on D and unlike fin can handle the ball and pass without having the ball stripped away 4 times a game. He is an upgrade.

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    where is this marked improvement over the course of his recent career? he had one good year, other than that he did not really improve. it is not like he is 23 or something, how much better do you think he will get? do not be such a , aggie boy
    Where is Finley's improvement if it's so ing important to you?

    Finley's PPG peaked in 2002, and his FG% and 3pt% peaked in 2004 and 2005 respectively.

    At least Mason has an uptick in his numbers, Finley's on a gradual decay.

    Do not be such a vagina, Mr. League Pass.

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    Just food for thought ... and I don't really want to harp on this but ...

    Both Michael Finley and Brent Barry have had two of their worst years, 3 point shooting wise, playing for the Spurs.

    Brent Barry, in his first year as a Spur went from 45% to 36% from behind the arc. That stat improved to 39.6% the following year, then 44%, and finally 48% last year (which was abreviated).

    Michael Finley went from 40%, to 39% in his first year as a Spur, to 36% when he was our heralded "fourth scorer" in 2007, and up to a magical 37% last year.

    So, our two guys who are supposed to be firing away from behind the arc because of the wide open spaces created by Tim Duncan have shot either the same or a little bit worse as Spurs.

    When you factor in the following (1) the first year acclimation woes and (2) the deterioration of Tim Duncan and the correlative decline in double teams (see Hornets, New Orleans), what does that mean for our new overpaid Free Agent?

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    I'm disappointed in the signing. After Maggette, I thought Azubuike was the player we should have targeted. Thats all gone now. I guess we'll see how Mason does. Hopefully we can grab Barry and get rid of Finley.

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    I don't know if it has been posted but he just signed a two year contract for aprox 8 mil.

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    Once again if you take my comments in the context in which they were made, it was not to act better than, but to enlighten those who deemed me re ed without knowing me because of a basketball conversation...
    As opposed to those whom you deemed re ed because you have a Master's and League Pass, and that clearly makes you intellectually superior to them.

    It's all about context

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    All I can pretty much tell is that he will be an upgrade on d, probably an upgrade on offense, is a hard worker and will fall in line like a good soldier. He might not be a huge splash, but when was the last time the Spurs made a huge splash? These under the radar guys have seemed to work out pretty well so far.

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    All I can pretty much tell is that he will be an upgrade on d, probably an upgrade on offense, is a hard worker and will fall in line like a good soldier. He might not be a huge splash, but when was the last time the Spurs made a huge splash? These under the radar guys have seemed to work out pretty well so far.
    Exactly.

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    Just food for thought ... and I don't really want to harp on this but ...

    Both Michael Finley and Brent Barry have had two of their worst years, 3 point shooting wise, playing for the Spurs.

    Brent Barry, in his first year as a Spur went from 45% to 36% from behind the arc. That stat improved to 39.6% the following year, then 44%, and finally 48% last year (which was abreviated).

    Michael Finley went from 40%, to 39% in his first year as a Spur, to 36% when he was our heralded "fourth scorer" in 2007, and up to a magical 37% last year.

    So, our two guys who are supposed to be firing away from behind the arc because of the wide open spaces created by Tim Duncan have shot either the same or a little bit worse as Spurs.

    When you factor in the following (1) the first year acclimation woes and (2) the deterioration of Tim Duncan and the correlative decline in double teams (see Hornets, New Orleans), what does that mean for our new overpaid Free Agent?
    So everyone is going to suck from behind the arc according to you no matter who he is or what he's paid.

    Maybe Brendan Haywood can shoot our threes.

    I just want more scoring and more diversified scoring. If Mason can help with that, I don't give a about his 3pt percentage.

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    One wonders if the Spurs could move Raptor fan favorite Bonner for Delfino in a S&T and then sign Javtokas (or bring back Horry) with the LLE.
    I think Bonner would be down with it since he loved the Toronto public transportation system so much.

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    Just food for thought ... and I don't really want to harp on this but ...

    Both Michael Finley and Brent Barry have had two of their worst years, 3 point shooting wise, playing for the Spurs.

    Brent Barry, in his first year as a Spur went from 45% to 36% from behind the arc. That stat improved to 39.6% the following year, then 44%, and finally 48% last year (which was abreviated).

    Michael Finley went from 40%, to 39% in his first year as a Spur, to 36% when he was our heralded "fourth scorer" in 2007, and up to a magical 37% last year.

    So, our two guys who are supposed to be firing away from behind the arc because of the wide open spaces created by Tim Duncan have shot either the same or a little bit worse as Spurs.

    When you factor in the following (1) the first year acclimation woes and (2) the deterioration of Tim Duncan and the correlative decline in double teams (see Hornets, New Orleans), what does that mean for our new overpaid Free Agent?
    Well I guess the Spurs are ed. Time to shut down the forum and find something else to do with our time.

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    I'm disappointed in the signing. After Maggette, I thought Azubuike was the player we should have targeted. Thats all gone now. I guess we'll see how Mason does. Hopefully we can grab Barry and get rid of Finley.
    I like KA as well, but their really was no guarantee he would be a better player on this team than Mason.

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    The Spurs did make an offer to Delfino, according to one report.

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    So everyone is going to suck from behind the arc according to you no matter who he is or what he's paid.

    Maybe Brendan Haywood can shoot our threes.
    YES!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID Congrats on winning the "I didn't take what that dude said out of context at all/put words in his mouth" prize.

    Where did I say that "everyone will suck" shooting threes? Link?

    Yes Brendan should chuck it up ... only after we sign George Murreshan who will KILL from behind the arc because of the Texas-like wide open spaces created by tim.

    Congrats on not being a -stick and having a modi of respect for another human being and responding to an argument. By the way, how's Roger Mason's taste?

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    (2) the deterioration of Tim Duncan and the correlative decline in double teams (see Hornets, New Orleans)
    Didn't the Spurs beat New Orleans?

    What lesson is to be learned from that?

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    All I can pretty much tell is that he will be an upgrade on d, probably an upgrade on offense, is a hard worker and will fall in line like a good soldier. He might not be a huge splash, but when was the last time the Spurs made a huge splash? These under the radar guys have seemed to work out pretty well so far.
    Don't you get it? Unless the Spurs signed the guy the poster with 100 posts had actually heard of, or stood pat with 452 year old Michael Finley, it's a disaster.

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    YES!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID Congrats on winning the "I didn't take what that dude said out of context at all/put words in his mouth" prize.

    Where did I say that "everyone will suck" shooting threes? Link?

    Yes Brendan should chuck it up ... only after we sign George Murreshan who will KILL from behind the arc because of the Texas-like wide open spaces created by tim.

    Congrats on not being a -stick and having a modi of respect for another human being and responding to an argument. By the way, how's Roger Mason's taste?
    Aw, baby had a widdle meltdown.

    You say we're doomed.

    Feel free to sign off.

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    Didn't the Spurs beat New Orleans?

    What lesson is to be learned from that?
    They did ... in 7 games ... Doesn't change the fact that they didn't double Timmy, does it ?

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    YES!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID Congrats on winning the "I didn't take what that dude said out of context at all/put words in his mouth" prize.

    Where did I say that "everyone will suck" shooting threes? Link?

    Yes Brendan should chuck it up ... only after we sign George Murreshan who will KILL from behind the arc because of the Texas-like wide open spaces created by tim.

    Congrats on not being a -stick and having a modi of respect for another human being and responding to an argument. By the way, how's Roger Mason's taste?
    Your a vulgar little er huh?

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    If you had been paying attention, Pop stuck with Finley because he needed Fin's shooting... which was only showing up once every five games.

    Pop even admitted that he was having to sacrifice defense to get a reasonable amount of firepower on the court offensively.

    For someone with a Master's and League Pass, this shouldn't be rocket science.
    Udoka was shooting the ball well and he plays D, it is not rocket science, just difference of opinion.

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    They did ... in 7 games ... Doesn't change the fact that they didn't double Timmy, does it ?
    Doesn't change the fact you think Haywood is on par with Duncan, apparently.

    Or that the Spurs have scoreboard on the Hornets.

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