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Possibly, but that means something happened to half the you "looked up".
He's still undersized if he is a legit 6'5". Is he not?
Possibly, but that means something happened to half the you "looked up".
no he is about the norm for an NBA 2guard you would like to have someone 6-7 but they are rare...even Kobe who is listed at 6-6 sometimes 6-7 he is no bigger than Bonzi Wells who is 6-5 maybe..
6'5" isn't a bad height for a combo guard.
From what I saw of Roger Mason last year, he did not seem very impressive. I think he will make about as much impact this year as Udoka made last year...I guess having the League Pass this year was the right move, I sure as ain't spending another $170 for Roger Mason, George Hill and 2 scraps with what is left of the MLE/LLE.
Exactly, but did we really need a combo guard? Seems to me, this is yet another case of conservative spurs free agency dealings. We are hedging our bets in case Mr. IUPUI does not work out.
Regardless of how many optimists here are trying to spin it, what we needed was a new shooting guard of legitimate height. Manu will not start when the down gets dirty next year. This is fact. The spurs brains know this is fact.
It's just the same old same old.
Now I don't know if I want Hill to pan out or not. If he does, Mason is going to be Udoka v2.0, in terms of a player making a first year impact.
Do you think anyone at the top has even considered what we will do if Bruce Bowen does not hold up for another year?
Can you say
SMAAALLLLLL BALLLLLLLLLL
He is a shooting Guard who can handle the ball he is not a combo guard....he will play 90% of his min at SG......only way he plays pt is if we are going big and give Tony a rest.
Well, he is a combo though more a 2 than a 1.
Anyways, Spurs need guards who can defend, handle the rock, and shoot the 3.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Phil Jackson make it a point to take away the 3 in the WCF's? The result was Finley, Udoka, et. al, going for slow unathletic layups and getting swatted with ease.
I think that they payed way too much for Roger Mason. 7,5 for two years that's way too much for an okay player. I rather have the Spurs give their draft picks the minutes to develop, than this deal...
I hope this is good. I seen this guy light up 3's, hope he can bring that one here..
LMFAO! I started the whole degree debacle, my bad...but I do have a state championship medal as well!!
We will see, I am with you..he is a slightly better version of Finley because of the D, but not a better pure shooter overall. Still has some upside, not much but some. I wonder what happens to Ime Udoka now? I mean aren't the second year players like him in our system supposed to do better and get more PT?
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He can shoot was a pretty good college player ...congrats Spurs ...i dont think he is extremely athletic but o be fair he didnt always get to drive much with the Wiz ...
i see him play a lot in israel and he was not that good in the israeli league, and he unathletic also.
I gues he'll be playing just like Udoka did las year.
But i think we should try to get better free agents
After more research, here are some additional thoughts regarding the Mason signing:
Pluses
-Really shot well once he became a part of the rotation. He shot nearly 45% from the field and 41% from the three-point line once he was given a shot.
-When Mason started, his stats were very, very good. If the Spurs plan to start him, perhaps they were looking at how well he played as a starter last year for the Wizards.
-Good guy and team player. Spurs fans are mostly tired of the "good guy" talk but this is another class act that will fit seamlessly into the team.
-He was who the Spurs wanted last year. The money they originally gave Udoka was offered to Mason. So it's not like he had one fluke year and then the Spurs got interested.
-He gives the Spurs good versatility. For example, if the Spurs want to waive Jacque Vaughn to open another spot on the roster, the Spurs now have yet another player that can play minutes at point guard.
-He shoots mostly from the straight away which will be mix nicely with the rest of the team, especially Bowen and Udoka. The Spurs haven't had a player who was really good at straight away threes since Steve Smith.
Minuses
-He's a horrible rebounder. I'm talking one of the very worst in the league. Players like Travis Diener, Brevin Knight and JJ Re average more rebounds per minute. The only shooting guard who got less rebounds per minute than him last year was Jamal Crawford ... and Crawford played a lot of PG for the Knicks. The only Spur who rebounds worse is Vaughn.
-I have a bad feeling that he'll be consumed by the "first year yips" that we see out of all shooters when they sign with the Spurs. He's had only one good shooting year in the NBA so it's not like he has a lot of confidence to fall back on. Even at Virginia, he shot like 40% in his junior season before declaring for the draft. His shooting numbers this past year look possibly fluke-ish, which isn't good for a guy stepping into a pressure packed situation where it's championship or bust.
-Mason's clutch stats last year weren't too pretty. He was underwhelming in the playoffs and shot 36% in clutch situations last year. The Spurs need their shooters to have ice in their veins. I don't any indication that Mason's blood is cold.
-Size is questionable. 6-foot-5 could really mean 6-foot-3. Combine that with below average athleticism and Mason won't help the Spurs get bigger or more athletic on the perimeter.
Very solid signing, with the assets remaining, maybe they can pry away quinton ross and michael doleac and call it an offseason, then let the forum melting out during all the regular season, then win a championship with this team when everyone here gets like "told you so" mode....
Something heart-warming -- Mason was fairly bad in the playoffs this year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/t...playerId=18353
That's his draft bio coming out of college. And further more he plays point so why do people think all he can do is shoot? How many PGs have no dribble penetration what so ever?
dont judge a book by its cover
i say this guy could offer us more than james jones who got a nice contract from teh heat, more than what we gave to masonjr
What would that be? I remember watching him play at UVA, and he was maybe 6'4 instead of 6'5, but still clearly the height of most 2s. I seriously doubt he has shrunk since them.
As for being obsolete, I think almost everyone would agree that 6'6 is plenty big enough for a 2 guard. Are you telling me that because his head is located one inch below that, he is obsolete? What if his reach is an inch longer than most guys who are 6'6?
I read a few more scouting reports on Mason and he gets criticized for chucking up shots even when he's not open. Usually that is bad news for a prospect but with Pop's mandate that perimeter players shoot when they are open, it's better to go after a guy who shoots too much than a guy who doesn't shoot enough. Mason also has a pretty quick release on his jumper, which should come in handy off of kickouts from Duncan.
I still don't like it that he only has one good shooting season on his resume, dating back to his senior year in college. Hopefully Mason AKA "The Potomac Rainmaker" won't be known as the "Muddy River Drought" this upcoming season.
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