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    why does everyone get excited over 2010, lets face it, lebron, carmelo, whoever, are not going to sign with the spurs, lets get real. One thing about pro athletes, they play for money first and prefer the flashy destinations ie Cali, NY, MIA, ect.
    Firstly, I doubt the Spurs are even trying to go after either player. There will be other free agents in 2010.

    Also, players go to the destination that pays more.

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    He does not address what I thought was one of our biggest problems at the 2/3 spot: Defense....
    Huh, from his FA thread I gathered that the only reason he has hung on in the league (until last season) was his defensive ability. Now he has added some offense. Probably too small for 3 defense but thats Bowen/Udoka's realm anyway.

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    So this is what we're looking at ATTM:

    Bigs: Duncan, Oberto, Ian, Bonner
    Wings: Bowen, Manu, Udoka
    Guards: Parker, Hill, Mason

    Bring back Thomas and probably Vaughn. I don't see how you bring back Barry or Finely.

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    i wanted someone that could take it to the rack, thats why i liked Kelenna A., he could take it to the rack...i watched probably 50 spurs games last year, i saw maybe 20 dunks all year, seriously. and they were all duncan put back dunks.
    Well, according to the CBSSportsline dunk-o-meter . . .

    Mason had only 1 dunk all of the 07-08 season. Finley had 6. Barry had 4.

    So as far as helping the Spurs get younger, Mason helps.

    As far as the Spurs getting more athletic . . . this isn't the guy.

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    He plays better defense than Barry and Finley combined. It's one of his known traits.

    My god kid, do you follow the NBA?
    You have to realize, if DPG hasn't seen a guy light up the Spurs or be clutch in the NBA Finals, he doesn't have a ing clue about him.

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    It's been a disappointing couple of days between Maggette selling out for more $$ and us settling for Mason Jr with the majority of the MLE

    I guess Pop must've meant when he said something along the lines of 'if we don't have the big three healthy nothing else matters'.....and I can't disagree. But we needed a solid starter at SG and we needed to get rid dead weight like Finley, Horry and Vaughn.

    It looks like none of that'll happen now. To make it worse, Barry will probably end up on the Suns.....man I hope Pop and RC didn't hit the wine sellar before yesterday...I guess we can kiss Kalenna, JR and Posey good-bye now...

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    Well, according to the CBSSportsline dunk-o-meter . . .

    Mason had only 1 dunk all of the 07-08 season. Finley had 6. Barry had 4.

    So as far as helping the Spurs get younger, Mason helps.

    As far as the Spurs getting more athletic . . . this isn't the guy.
    .....

    Dunking = athelticism now?

    Wowwwwwwww

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    Spurs are looking for diamonds in the rough. There are few UFAs they could land with the MLE for two years. They obviously saw something they liked as they offered him a 3 year deal last summer with his NBA career to that point not really warranting such a commitment. Last season I think he showed that he was worth it. The Spurs' system requires guards who can shoot the 3 and handle the rock. They still have the flexibility (remainder of MLE, LLE, & trade exception) to add some role players.

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    You have to realize, if DPG hasn't seen a guy light up the Spurs or be clutch in the NBA Finals, he doesn't have a ing clue about him.
    That figures.

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    So this is what we're looking at ATTM:

    Bigs: Duncan, Oberto, Ian, Bonner
    Wings: Bowen, Manu, Udoka
    Guards: Parker, Hill, Mason

    Bring back Thomas and probably Vaughn. I don't see how you bring back Barry or Finely.
    I'd like to see Barry back as a mentor/locker room guy/glue guy.

    If Finley is back on this team for opening day next year the front office gets an automatic F.

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    Maybe it's just the Stockholm Syndrome, but I'm starting to like this guy already.

    I always believed that one of the Spurs' FO's best traits was avoiding bad contracts and going for smaller (more flexible) deals for the role players. That way, the Spurs maximize their options and keep these role guys hungry (i.e., playing to earn their first big payday).
    Hilarious! I feel the same way... and if they'd waited for Smith or Azubuike and lost out, people really would've gone ballistic!

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    Solid to good player.

    Other guys like Azubuike and Smith are gonna go for higher, as evidenced by the apparent overinflation of contracts given out.

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    .....

    Dunking = athelticism now?

    Wowwwwwwww
    Beat me to it, we've got some logic challenged individuals on this site.

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    if spurs had more then the mle they could throw at jr smith then they could do soemthing major
    the only way to do something major is to trade manu or tp
    I would have rather signed Pietrus for the full MLE than Mason for half of it. That would have been a lot better. We need a long swing man, Pietrus is it, and he's the best the spurs could have gotten, Mason is George Hill. I don't care if Pietrus is 'dumb'.

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    It's been a disappointing couple of days between Maggette selling out for more $$ and us settling for Mason Jr with the majority of the MLE
    So far only Ol' McDonald has posted that number. It may be right on or it may be completely off. We'll see.

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    I don't like the move or hate it really

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    So this is what we're looking at ATTM:

    Bigs: Duncan, Oberto, Ian, Bonner
    Wings: Bowen, Manu, Udoka
    Guards: Parker, Hill, Mason

    Bring back Thomas and probably Vaughn. I don't see how you bring back Barry or Finely.
    Vaughn is on the roster. He picked up his player option.

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    Solid to good player.

    Other guys like Azubuike and Smith are gonna go for higher, as evidenced by the apparent overinflation of contracts given out.
    How can you overinflate the MLE?

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    I would have rather signed Pietrus for the full MLE than Mason for half of it. That would have been a lot better. We need a long swing man, Pietrus is it, and he's the best the spurs could have gotten, Mason is George Hill. I don't care if Pietrus is 'dumb'.
    For 5 years instead of for 2?

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    We should use the rest of the MLE on Najera or Barnes.

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    Do you watch the damn games, do not just read blogs... I watch every single game for every single team. He was an average defender at best, maybe it was a case of a good individual defender on a bad team, but Stevenson stood out defensively as well as Butler, Mason, not so much...

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    Spurs are looking for diamonds in the rough. There are few UFAs they could land with the MLE for two years. They obviously saw something they liked as they offered him a 3 year deal last summer with his NBA career to that point not really warranting such a commitment. Last season I think he showed that he was worth it. The Spurs' system requires guards who can shoot the 3 and handle the rock.
    I don't think a lot of people understand how far the Spurs defense slipped last year. A lot of the scoring droughts the Spurs go through have been around since Pop started coaching this team, but the fact is their defense made little light of it since they would shut teams down. Over the years they'd gone away from players who thrived in that with the additions of Finely, Oberto, and Barry but I think this summer they've taken a step back in that direction.

    I don't know if the reasoning is correct or not (we'll see next season) but I suspect the Spurs feel that their offense isn't the biggest problem at the moment but their defense is.

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    I would have rather signed Pietrus for the full MLE than Mason for half of it. That would have been a lot better. We need a long swing man, Pietrus is it, and he's the best the spurs could have gotten, Mason is George Hill. I don't care if Pietrus is 'dumb'.
    I honestly think I would rather have Mason than Pietrus. Then again, I'm not a big fan of Pietrus at all. At least Mason helps score some points.

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    .....

    Dunking = athelticism now?

    Wowwwwwwww
    I think he defeated his own logic when he listed Barry and Finley having more dunks.

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    Good signing but I'm going to be pissed if we passed over Kelenna for this guy.
    +1

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