I do agree that Finley did move ahead of Barry in 2007 due to injury, but I think that was the main factor into the Spurs allowing Barry to walk, is that he just cannot stay healthy anymore. Yes I agree Barry is a multi-dimensional player with his passing and ballhandling to go along with good shooting, but what good does it do when he's not playing in all 82 games. By no means am I a Finley fan or a Finley lover/homer, but for all the criticism Finley takes in being a turnstile on defense, Barry gets somewhat of a free pass. Barry also isn't a good defender himself, and people forget that he struggled mightily in the 07 playoffs, especially on the road where I don't think he hit a shot. In 2006, other than the Kings game where he hit the game tying 3 that bounced in the rim, he didn't do much either. He was also horrible against his former team the Sonics in 2005. And as much grief you give Finley for causing the Spurs to lose to Dallas in 06, Finley balled his ass off in that series. I don't even think Barry showed up at all in that series. Finley was probably the 2nd or 3rd best player for the Spurs behind Tim and maybe Manu. He wasn't the reason why the Spurs lost that series.
In theory it works that way...if that is what Pop does then yes, it's not a total disaster. But there's no guarantees that's what Pop will do...if Pop gets pissed at one of the rookies they could wind up in the doghouse with Finley being heavily relied upon in the rotation...and we might not make it out the first round if that is the case.
Pop having a lot of options is never a good thing...it's never a good thing for the Spurs, and it's never a good thing for our le chances.
Cassell will at least take the open shots Finley passes up. If Pop is unwilling to take a chance on a young guy, might as well go to a decent shooter.
Livingstone is still young and showed alot of promise before the injuries. If we are talking minimum contract, how is that any worse than Finley?
You didn't bother to respond to Ross or Jones, both of them have at least some defensive abilities, something Finley is not a contributor at...
As for the NBDL, we won't know who is playing well until the season starts there but it would be nice to have an opening to sign someone should the opportunity arise...don't you think?
With Parker getting hurt, I'd say that Finley also played more minutes than he should've last year as well.
If the excuse works for Manu, it definately goes for FInely as well.
On top of that, hes not gonna play hardly any minutes this year.
8 to 10, nights hes hot maybe 15 or 20. Gonna be some DNP CDs.
Looks like Pop had help this summer going over the cliff.
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You're forgiven...sunshine.
You have yet to illustrate why your pants are going crazy over this guy? If you'd watch the damn games, his limited value should be obvious - even to you. Meanwhile, you just keep sucking on his nuts.
, you're still pissed that the FO elected not to invite Horry back.
Why is Spurs not get some good young players? Not ones like Hill but better than this? They not need old players like Finley. Is Horry also coming back? Spurs is not doing good this off season.
And you keep on with the Finley love, Sonny.
Here's what you need to know about TPark...you see that post where TPark is ripping Devin Brown in this thread? TPark was one of the biggest Devin Brown jockers on the forum when Devin Brown was a Spur...You have yet to illustrate why your pants are going crazy over this guy? If you'd watch the damn games, his limited value should be obvious - even to you. Meanwhile, you just keep sucking on his nuts.
, you're still pissed that the FO elected not to invite Horry back.
WHEN, not IF, Finley sucks this season, TPark will be leading the witchhunt.
Yea thats Poopavich for ya.
So with a tired GInobili, you would be ok, with having an open roster spot to say
eh, lets just signed whoever is available.
The Spurs have one of the more complicated offenses in the league and your "ok" with that?
Mason, Ginobili, Udoka will get alot of the minutes, and whatevers left over Finley will get.
Its that simple.
BTW, Finley 2 legs > Livingston 1 leg. Im sorry if I dont want a guy that still can't run, on the Spurs.
I hear ya. He's a freaking piece of work, isn't he?
ze rosta is le complete!
-cracks fingers-
You have yet to illustrate why your pants are going crazy over this guy? If you'd watch the damn games, his limited value should be obvious - even to you. Meanwhile, you just keep sucking on his nuts.
, you're still pissed that the FO elected not to invite Horry back.
I'm not "crazy" over the guy. I've stated I would've rather had Barry back than Finley.
I would've rather had Pargo than Finley as well. Pargo decided he wants to play for the Communists so you had to go to the last resort guy. It happens.
you.I hear ya. He's a freaking piece of work, isn't he?
I stood up for Finley all ing season, go back and look at the posts.
If you can't remember that, then again, you.
Thanks...I wish I could you give you some points, but unfortunately, being stupid on the internet doesn't count for anything these days.
Someday, you'll realize how stupid you were to direct those Barry comments towards me. Of any and all posters on this forum, I was the absolute worst one to direct them towards if you are trying to prove your self literate...someday, you'll realize that...but unfortunately for you, it'll be too late by then.
OH MY GOD. I'm SO sorry that I directed those comments at you. Boy, do I feel embarassed. I mean, I've been pouring through each and every thread here for like 18 hours a day, chronicling each and every posters proclivities (the people who post here are really important in the grand scheme of things you know). And, I KNEW YOU HATED BARRY!!! How foolish of me.
Despite your utter failure to say anything other that "don't you know who I am," you still said nothing about the fact that Bones was better than Fin.
What they say is true, the people in San Antonio are fat and stupid.
RIF.
What love?
Seriously, all I've said is, who else is seriously better other than the stiff retreads that you guys bring up?
Once again I advocated Barry > Finley this summer and it didn't happen.
So again, off.
Aw, he's pissed.
Such profane language.
Stop being such a tempermental little girl. After all, you started this venomous backbiting with every poster that criticized Finley.
Meanwhile, back 'atcha sweetheart.
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vvf...perhaps you should learn how to not get your ass kicked by the quote function before attempting to argue with actual posters.
That's twice now...
Still hoping we can sign K Snyder, but Fin may surprise us this year. If he isnt asked to play big mins he may be more productive. Keep him fresh, and his FG% is likely to go way up.
We could do woarse.
it - you guys need to remember the elation we felt on August 31, 2005, when Finley picked the Spurs among many other contenders. He gave us a dynamite peformance against Dallas in 2006, and was then vital in 2007 to get ring #4.
I appreciate all he contributed and look forward to seeing him don the silver and black through 2009.
1) I don't really like this signing because I don't trust Pop with Finley. If I were guaranteed that Finley will be an end of the bench player, I'd be fine with it. But I'm afraid that Pop will keep him in the rotation, which would have a disastrous ending. If Finley is in the rotation come playoff time, I'd say the Spurs have no shot at a championship. His defense is just too poor and he doesn't come close to making up for it offensively.
2) The timing makes me think that the decision was between Pargo and Finley. Perhaps the Spurs offered Finley the 2-year, $4M contract they were reportedly offering Pargo.
3) Is there a personnel move T Park wouldn't fully support? The Spurs could sign Karl Malone's mom and T Park would go to his "who is better, give me names" routine.
4) It's scary to think that 2008-09 championship rides on whether Roger Mason, Jr. can produce at a high level. If he sucks, that means Finley will be forced into a lot of minutes.
5) The Spurs may still not be done this offseason. I think the Spurs are probably still looking around for a backup point guard. A trade also wouldn't surprise me.
Eh, oh well. I would've like for them to wait a little longer to see if someone else became available. But oh well.
He's a saftey net. If Mason struggles ealry, you'll plug Finley in till he catches up. Not hard to see why they wanted him back.
That's my biggest fear. I remember Pop started Smith in the beggining of 03 season and Pop likes Finley much more than Smith.1) I don't really like this signing because I don't trust Pop with Finley. If I were guaranteed that Finley will be an end of the bench player, I'd be fine with it. But I'm afraid that Pop will keep him in the rotation, which would have a disastrous ending. If Finley is in the rotation come playoff time, I'd say the Spurs have not shot at a championship. His defense is just too poor and he doesn't come close to making up for it offensively.
I think Pop will play Mason and Finley may take Ime's minutes behind Bruce
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