Its On - USA v Argentina - AKA Whottttttttttt does Argentina

[samikeyp]

I'm sure the crowds of Chinese people who pay to get into the arena wold rather see layups.

But I thought the world outside the US wanted to see them lose?

[samikeyp]

I think the Chinese fans might be rooting for this guy...

http://www.vagazette.com/la-sp-olyhe...0,554003.story

[ArgSpursFan.]

I love it, and if we were ever to beat a Brazil or Argentina in the WC I'd be ecstatic but I doubt the rest of the country would share my sentiments. You don't understand the United States. It's just not a soccer nation. We beat Portugal in 02 and it didn't do all that much for the sport.

I understand you're proud of your team. Thats fine. But many Argentinians have grown y and have decided that my countries team has no heart. Well, my no heart team is going to beat the ever living crap out of Argentina tomorrow and konck you back down to your rightful place in the basketball hierarchy: Below - with everyone else - the United States.


PS - Pay attention bdictjames - THIS post is an example of American arrogance.

I know there's only a small chance we beat the USA team, + we don't have a deep bench eather this Olympics, but..
If Arg beats USA I´ll be waiting for you to show me again your American Arrogance,maybe just like you did after we beated your asses in 2004.
like Manu said: on the court it´s just a 5 on 5 game,and as long as He's on the court, I´ll believe.

[Solid D]

2 start times for San Antonio audience. The game actually starts at 9:15 AM CDT, Friday (Time Warner HD 102).

NBC standard cable/TV will start its broadcast 45 minutes later on NBC WOAI Channel 4 at 10:00 AM CDT (according to Don Harris).

[MannyIsGod]

I can't believe they're going to tape delay this ? I can't believe that.

LOL They are tape delaying. NBC has really annoyed me with their tape delays but this is flat out ridiculous.

[timvp]

2 start times for San Antonio audience. The game actually starts at 9:15 AM CDT, Friday (Time Warner HD 102).

NBC standard cable/TV will start its broadcast 45 minutes later on NBC WOAI Channel 4 at 10:00 AM CDT (according to Don Harris).

Thanks for the info. I was going to DVR the game but I need to see it live

[Solid D]

In looking at the schedule, it appears that the only thing keeping NBC standard from showing the game live is the "Today" show doesn't end until 10:00 AM.

[MI21]

I can't wait for this, hopefully TV over here shows the whole thing.

I don't really know who to root for. USA is and always has been the best basketballing country in the world, despite what the Olympic and World Champ results say. Them winning gold seems right. Plus, I like the way they are playing, very entertaining, but solid fundamental basketball.

Argentina are so fun to watch, and they have Manu. One of the best true teams I've seen in my time.

I don't really care who wins, but I think US will. I expect that Argentina will put in a very good effort, and I think a lot here are underating them and there chances. Who knows though, USA could potentially win by 40. Tough game to guess a margin really.

[roycrikside]

I find it very depressing that so many so-called Spurs fans here are behaving in such a fashion. The Olympics are supposed to bring people together, not tear them apart. I think Spurs fans in the United States should be grateful that two of their best players are from other countries because it brings new culture, experiences, fans, and attention to the team. Conversely I think Argentine Manu fans and French Tony fans should realize how fortunate they are that their favorite players wound up on a team with a legendary player like Duncan and a great coach like Pop. The relationship has worked beautifully for all involved.

Personally, I think it would be a lot more boring to follow the team if all their players looked the same and came from the same country. I like variety and I like that we have fans from all over. I kinda wish we still had Beno and Rasho, not because they were all that good as players, but they brought over another segment of fans to Spurstalk.

The majority of Spurstalk might be Americans, but I would hope that as far as basketball goes we're Spurs fans first, so I don't - and will not - understand all this animosity and hatred for a team with two Spurs on it and all this passionate support and trashtalking for a team with no Spurs, and in a few cases players whom we flat out don't like in the NBA, like Kobe, Carmelo and Jason Kidd.

In fact, Anthony in particular is behaving every bit the ugly American that rubs so many people the wrong way. Look at this quote that he gave to Chris Sheridan:

"I can't wait. I can't wait to get over that hump," Carmelo Anthony said. "These last two games, there's no reason to hold anything back. To be a champion you have to beat a champion. They still have the gold medal, no matter who won the world championship in '06. We have to go out there and take that from them."

Take what from them? Their gold medals? Like go into their homes in Argentina and steal them? They give out new medals every Olympics, dude. No matter what happens tomorrow, they'll keep their '04 ones.

Also, on SportsCenter recently, I heard him say, "After we win the gold nobody will remember what happened in '04."

Wrong. I will remember. I will always remember and I'm sure many others will as well. One loss doesn't take away from a previous win. I think it's pretty arrogant for Anthony to assume that the Argentine players or people will feel any less proud of their accomplishments in '04 regardless of what happens in '08. But I guess this is a typical "what have you done for me lately" mentality. A lot of people on the board have it as well. If a player has a bad playoff series then all the great ones from before are forgotten.

Anyway, I ask again. This brawling, flagrant fouling, drunk-driving, stop-snitchin' advocating jackass is what you have forsaken Manu for? Just because he happens to be born in Baltimore rather than Bahia Blanca?

Jeffrey Dahmer is American, but I wouldn't root for him against Kobayashi in a hot dog eating contest either.

I find the comments on these boards troubling for many reasons but most of all I'm surprised why some posters here care at all in the first place. So many of you shared TPark and ChumpDumper's sentiments that the Olympics don't matter, that's it's a meaningless exhibition, that basketball matters only in the context of how it pertains to the Spurs. They bashed Manu repeatedly for wanting to play in the Olympics and called him selfish for doing so, because he'd be doing it - and I repeat - for a cause they didn't care about.

But now it's August 20 and all of a sudden all of these people do care. What changed? Are you all rooting against Ginobili now just out of spite? What would these boards be like if Argentina lost to Greece a couple days ago or if Australia upset the U.S.?

No matter what happens tomorrow, come October Manu and Oberto will be on the Spurs and the 12 guys on the U.S. team will be on teams looking to beat the Spurs. I don't understand how so many people here will seamlessly go back to rooting for and supporting players for whom they wished nothing but ill will this whole offseason and vice versa for their superstar opponents.

No true Spurs fan should ever root for a team with Manu and Fab on it to get their asses kicked just like no Argentine would ever root for the Spurs to lose a game. I cannot fathom how anyone could even contemplate such a thing. I'm not the world's biggest Parker fan but I certainly wouldn't root against France against the U.S. if he's playing for them and no Spur is on the U.S. side. At the end of the day it's the player we see 8 months a year, not a national uniform, and I don't know about all of you, but I'd like our Spurs players to be happy, in good spirits, confident and successful, in all their compe ions and endeavors.

[whottt]

I pay attention to Soccer...I want to see us kick the crap out of everyone, just once. Then I can say be careful what you wish for....world.

[whottt]

I find it very depressing that so many so-called Spurs fans here are behaving in such a fashion. The Olympics are supposed to bring people together, not tear them apart. I think Spurs fans in the United States should be grateful that two of their best players are from other countries because it brings new culture, experiences, fans, and attention to the team. Conversely I think Argentine Manu fans and French Tony fans should realize how fortunate they are that their favorite players wound up on a team with a legendary player like Duncan and a great coach like Pop. The relationship has worked beautifully for all involved.

Personally, I think it would be a lot more boring to follow the team if all their players looked the same and came from the same country. I like variety and I like that we have fans from all over. I kinda wish we still had Beno and Rasho, not because they were all that good as players, but they brought over another segment of fans to Spurstalk.

The majority of Spurstalk might be Americans, but I would hope that as far as basketball goes we're Spurs fans first, so I don't - and will not - understand all this animosity and hatred for a team with two Spurs on it and all this passionate support and trashtalking for a team with no Spurs, and in a few cases players whom we flat out don't like in the NBA, like Kobe, Carmelo and Jason Kidd.

In fact, Anthony in particular is behaving every bit the ugly American that rubs so many people the wrong way. Look at this quote that he gave to Chris Sheridan:

"I can't wait. I can't wait to get over that hump," Carmelo Anthony said. "These last two games, there's no reason to hold anything back. To be a champion you have to beat a champion. They still have the gold medal, no matter who won the world championship in '06. We have to go out there and take that from them."

Take what from them? Their gold medals? Like go into their homes in Argentina and steal them? They give out new medals every Olympics, dude. No matter what happens tomorrow, they'll keep their '04 ones.

Also, on SportsCenter recently, I heard him say, "After we win the gold nobody will remember what happened in '04."

Wrong. I will remember. I will always remember and I'm sure many others will as well. One loss doesn't take away from a previous win. I think it's pretty arrogant for Anthony to assume that the Argentine players or people will feel any less proud of their accomplishments in '04 regardless of what happens in '08. But I guess this is a typical "what have you done for me lately" mentality. A lot of people on the board have it as well. If a player has a bad playoff series then all the great ones from before are forgotten.

Anyway, I ask again. This brawling, flagrant fouling, drunk-driving, stop-snitchin' advocating jackass is what you have forsaken Manu for? Just because he happens to be born in Baltimore rather than Bahia Blanca?

Jeffrey Dahmer is American, but I wouldn't root for him against Kobayashi in a hot dog eating contest either.

I find the comments on these boards troubling for many reasons but most of all I'm surprised why some posters here care at all in the first place. So many of you shared TPark and ChumpDumper's sentiments that the Olympics don't matter, that's it's a meaningless exhibition, that basketball matters only in the context of how it pertains to the Spurs. They bashed Manu repeatedly for wanting to play in the Olympics and called him selfish for doing so, because he'd be doing it - and I repeat - for a cause they didn't care about.

But now it's August 20 and all of a sudden all of these people do care. What changed? Are you all rooting against Ginobili now just out of spite? What would these boards be like if Argentina lost to Greece a couple days ago or if Australia upset the U.S.?

No matter what happens tomorrow, come October Manu and Oberto will be on the Spurs and the 12 guys on the U.S. team will be on teams looking to beat the Spurs. I don't understand how so many people here will seamlessly go back to rooting for and supporting players for whom they wished nothing but ill will this whole offseason and vice versa for their superstar opponents.

No true Spurs fan should ever root for a team with Manu and Fab on it to get their asses kicked just like no Argentine would ever root for the Spurs to lose a game. I cannot fathom how anyone could even contemplate such a thing. I'm not the world's biggest Parker fan but I certainly wouldn't root against France against the U.S. if he's playing for them and no Spur is on the U.S. side. At the end of the day it's the player we see 8 months a year, not a national uniform, and I don't know about all of you, but I'd like our Spurs players to be happy, in good spirits, confident and successful, in all their compe ions and endeavors.

I suggest you give up sports and try Opera...or flower growing. Seriously...that was the biggest crock of I've ever read. Why even bother watching compe ion? The very nature of it is for someone to beat someone else...


Vince Lombardi would have ripped off your head shat down the bloody stump. At the very least...you'd have been cut.


Shawn Johnson has more balls than you. Pick a side...for you see, when trying to be a fan of everything, you become a fan of nothing.

[roycrikside]

I pay attention to Soccer...I want to see us kick the crap out of everyone, just once. Then I can say be careful what you wish for....world.

The U.S. will not be an international soccer threat until they can produce a world-class striker and a world-class playmaker. Young Jozy Altidore has the potential to be the former, and it's a good sign that at 19 he's already playing for Villarreal. But I still don't see that classic #10 on the U.S. team.

[Trainwreck2100]

I suggest you give up sports and try Opera...or flower growing. Seriously...that was the biggest crock of I've ever read. Why even bother watching compe ion? The very nature of it is for someone to beat the other person...


Vince Lombardi would have ripped off your head shat down the bloddy stump. At the very least...you'd have been cut.

i'd probably say the same thing if i bothered to read it.

[Trainwreck2100]

The U.S. will not be an international soccer threat until they can produce a world-class striker and a world-class playmaker. Young Jozy Altidore has the potential to be the former, and it's a good sign that at 19 he's already playing for Villarreal. But I still don't see that classic #10 on the U.S. team.

The US will not be a threat because their best athletes don't play soccer

[whottt]

Team USA isn't playing for the guy who'll be happy for whoever wins...neither is Team Argentina.

[whottt]

The U.S. will not be an international soccer threat until they can produce a world-class striker and a world-class playmaker. Young Jozy Altidore has the potential to be the former, and it's a good sign that at 19 he's already playing for Villarreal. But I still don't see that classic #10 on the U.S. team.

Which will make it all the sweeter when we win.

[J.T.]

I hope Kobe crosses over Manu and dunks it like fifty times in this game. People putting Manu before country need to gtfo. I'm a Ginobili fan but not in an Argentina jersey.

[MannyIsGod]

I suggest you give up sports and try Opera...or flower growing. Seriously...that was the biggest crock of I've ever read. Why even bother watching compe ion? The very nature of it is for someone to beat someone else...


Vince Lombardi would have ripped off your head shat down the bloody stump. At the very least...you'd have been cut.


Shawn Johnson has more balls than you. Pick a side...for you see, when trying to be a fan of everything, you become a fan of nothing.

Oh that was a good one.

[roycrikside]

Um, I think it's pretty obvious I picked a side. Perhaps you can't read.

[Kori Ellis]

I hope Manu plays awesome, stays healthy, and I hope the game is somehow close.

Ideally, I want the game to be a nail biter with Kobe propelling the U.S. team to victory. Manu will be pissed off at Kobe and tear up the Lakers in the NBA season.

Win-win.

[roycrikside]

I suggest you give up sports and try Opera...or flower growing. Seriously...that was the biggest crock of I've ever read. Why even bother watching compe ion? The very nature of it is for someone to beat someone else...


Vince Lombardi would have ripped off your head shat down the bloody stump. At the very least...you'd have been cut.


Shawn Johnson has more balls than you. Pick a side...for you see, when trying to be a fan of everything, you become a fan of nothing.

Some advice for Whottt, Mannyisgod, Trainwreck and whoever else cares to take it. You look a lot more educated if you actually read something before you comment/attack it.

I picked a side. I stated my case for why I picked the side I did.

If you cannot understand the point of the post, it's your cross to bare.

[T Park]

I think I predicted right about Duncan after the 2004 games

[Trainwreck2100]

Some advice for Whottt, Mannyisgod, Trainwreck and whoever else cares to take it. You look a lot more educated if you actually read something before you comment/attack it.

I picked a side. I stated my case for why I picked the side I did.

If you cannot understand the point of the post, it's your cross to bare.

I said i didn't read it, I only quoted you agreeing that us soccer sucks the post i quoted i read.

[MannyIsGod]

Some advice for Whottt, Mannyisgod, Trainwreck and whoever else cares to take it. You look a lot more educated if you actually read something before you comment/attack it.

I picked a side. I stated my case for why I picked the side I did.

If you cannot understand the point of the post, it's your cross to bare.

Some advice for roycrikside - stop caring how people on a message board percieve you. I don't care if you think I'm the dumbest most ignorant mother er around.

[Deimosfobos]

How is it arrogant to display a personal preference? In fact its ing arrogant to suggest that we have to like what you like or its arrogant. Not only that its also ing stupid.

If you don't understand what arrogant means then maybe you shouldn't use the word.

Is not... anyone can say football (soccer for you) sucks and is boring. Saying thats "American arrogance" is stupid imo.

After all, I consider your football (American football for us), to be boring as and gay compared to Rugby (real man sport). That doesn't make me arrogant or anything, is just my opinion.

I love it, and if we were ever to beat a Brazil or Argentina in the WC I'd be ecstatic but I doubt the rest of the country would share my sentiments. You don't understand the United States. It's just not a soccer nation. We beat Portugal in 02 and it didn't do all that much for the sport.

I understand you're proud of your team. Thats fine. But many Argentinians have grown y and have decided that my countries team has no heart. Well, my no heart team is going to beat the ever living crap out of Argentina tomorrow and konck you back down to your rightful place in the basketball hierarchy: Below - with everyone else - the United States.


PS - Pay attention bdictjames - THIS post is an example of American arrogance.

I have family in the States and I know most of what you say is true... but Team USA will probably destroy Argentina not because they have a lot of heart (not saying they don't), but because they have a far superior team in this games.

I hope Manu plays awesome, stays healthy, and I hope the game is somehow close.

Ideally, I want the game to be a nail biter with Kobe propelling the U.S. team to victory. Manu will be pissed off at Kobe and tear up the Lakers in the NBA season.

Win-win.

I would take that... as long as Argentina wins Bronze later...