Go Usa..
Most people dislike the American arrogance that many Americans have.
I'm gonna summarize for all the idiots here. If you think the US will win by 30 pts you are delusional. Period.
Argentina might even win this one - although I doubt it.
You watch too much TV and buy into that a lot. There's no protection of Poland. Don't be naive ffs.
USA might not win by 30 but it's not idiotic to think they could win big against Argentina. Spain and Greece were supposed to make their games close with the Americans too. We saw what happened with that.
One thing that is clear about this thread is that the Manu hate is still breaking havoc among the Spurs family. That plus a resentment of things non-American (food for fearmongers and racism and we already have 6 pages of posts).
Instead of cheering up a team like Argentina that has 2 Spurs players, people prefer to take it down even before the game is played when they already know the US team is far superior skill-wise. I would be praising the Argentinians instead, as in their success, there's also a clear sign 4 of their players play in the US in top teams and the rest in Europe. Their victory - whatever that might be - is a US victory as well.
Ridiculous.
of course the US will win, how could USA possibly lose with the ing team they brought.
It's not the team, never was, that's just an excuse. It's taking things more seriously and actually preparing. I think even the previous teams that didn't win gold could have won it, if only they made better preparations.
At what time is the game?
Or you could just be rooting for your country. Just because I root for the USA doesn't mean I don't like things non-American nor am I racist. I do agree with Pero though. The days where the US can throw 12 NBA players together 6 weeks before the games and win Gold are over. USA Basketball finally adopted the approach that the world's top programs have been doing for years. Keep a team together for a while and build on it. The US is finally doing that and it is now paying off.
No they could have...they also should have...
Lebron, Wade, Melo are all much better than they were in 2004, Dwight has been added, and Kobe is at the top of his game. It's just impossible to lose with that team.
FWIW, I do root for Argentina when they are not playing the US.
Exactly. I also put some of that on Larry Brown.
From a defense stand-point, you are probably correct.
If you look at the multiple billions of dollars the USA has poured into Africa for food and drought relief and the tens of billions the USA writes off in debt incurred by poor, highly indebted countries...as do G8 countries and others, there must be a mutual benefit, to some degree.
Of course, there are millions of dollars for poverty or disaster reasons sent out of compassion by individuals, churches and non-profit groups where the US government does not get involved. The USA is still governed and supported by humans with compassion. Unfortunately, Slomo, your point is well-taken, and "what's in it for us" is typically in the mix politically, but...giving to the poor out of love for others is still a principle taught and practiced here, from the roots-up.
Last edited by Solid D; 08-21-2008 at 10:02 AM.
Some...but mainly the team is better this year and they are more prepared, taking it more seriously. I bet in 04 they didn't expect to be in the receiving end of an upset. Although they did lose a couple times in 04.
Bingo. I think TD was serious about winning, not sure about the rest of them.
I did not mean to say USA has no heart or chemistry or courage, just that they did not show any yet for when you are winning by 30 points each match you hardly need to display any, those are treats that are more apparent in adversity, and were severely lacking in 2002 and 2004, weren't they?
is there a live stream going on? i am dying to see this game...
oops... just realized the game is tomorrow and not today. anyhow...
For those wondering, according to ESPN, the game will be Friday at 10:15am (ET)
i will watch this game, and i also have to watch argentina - nigeria, the soccer final.
I would disagree about this years team but you are dead on about 02 and 04.
Schedule...for the lazy.
The games will be on one of the NBC networks, probably USA Network as most of the morning games have been shown there.
if US has a really bad game, then argentina has a shot if they play a really good game.
other than that, i see US winning by 20+ points
piles up fast in here.
US fans should be thankful of argentina, greece, puerto rico, and all the other teams that forced USA basketball to take things seriously. when was the last time you all had this much fun rooting for your bball team?
i just hope for a good compe ive game, with good sportsmanship. too late to ask that from the fans...
and as an aside...
do y'all realize this is probably the biggest game in manu's career? he is under tremendous pressure to carry this team, and if he somehow manages to lead argentina to victory, he automatically becomes a lock for the HOF and the most accomplished non-american ball player ever. he could win 3 more rings with the spurs and it wouldnt do that for him.
pressure usually brings out the best in manu, and win or lose i expect an amazing game from him. OTOH, kobe bryant hasnt won anything (non-individual) in the past 5 years, and is also under huge pressure to redeem the US and himself. this game is going to be a great battle, with great entertainment.
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