Scola Performance on USA vs Argentina

[timvp]

I asked for an alternative trade that was on the table at the time of the Scola trade. You can't or won't produce any evidence of one, so I can safely assume you simply have none.

Your assumption is about as safe as your assumption the Scola trade was a good and necessary one.

Seriously though, the Spurs weren't in that much luxury tax hurt. All they needed to do was salary dump Butler (Butler + a pick somewhere for nothing), salary dump Beno (like they did), not re-sign Bonner and sign Scola and they would have made it under the threshold. It wasn't like they were in dire straights and trading Scola was their only way to reach salvation.

Perhaps the Spurs wouldn't have had the money to sign 75,000 D-League players for cups of coffee during the year but I think they would have survived.

[ChumpDumper]

Your assumption is about as safe as your assumption the Scola trade was a good and necessary one.

And yet you still haven't produced one. Why is that? I wasn't here, you were. What was the trade?

Seriously though, the Spurs weren't in that much luxury tax hurt. All they needed to do was salary dump Butler (Butler + a pick somewhere for nothing), salary dump Beno (like they did), not re-sign Bonner and sign Scola and they would have made it under the threshold. It wasn't like they were in dire straights and trading Scola was their only way to reach salvation.

Perhaps the Spurs wouldn't have had the money to sign 75,000 D-League players for cups of coffee during the year but I think they would have survived.

So who was in line to take Butler's deal and a pick for nothing?

[whottt]

Your assumption is about as safe as your assumption the Scola trade was a good and necessary one.

Seriously though, the Spurs weren't in that much luxury tax hurt. All they needed to do was salary dump Butler (Butler + a pick somewhere for nothing), salary dump Beno (like they did), not re-sign Bonner and sign Scola and they would have made it under the threshold. It wasn't like they were in dire straights and trading Scola was their only way to reach salvation.

Perhaps the Spurs wouldn't have had the money to sign 75,000 D-League players for cups of coffee during the year but I think they would have survived.

More like they didn't want to wait a year Scola to adjust to the NBA, and were more concerned with defending their le...and since Splitter would have been available the following year...


I just want you to prove Pop turned down better offers and okayed this trade stupidly...he didn't have to sign Oberto and Bonner.

[Sense]

Thank god ArgSpursFan got banned...

[timvp]

And yet you still haven't produced one. Why is that? I wasn't here, you were. What was the trade?

So who was in line to take Butler's deal and a pick for nothing?

I don't remember the exact teams that had trade exceptions or salary cap room, but there were a number of options that were discussed around that time. Even if I went back and searched my posts, you wouldn't believe the trades were possible so it's not worth my time.

How the did you bait me on this merry-go-round again.

[timvp]

I just want you to prove Pop turned down better offers and okayed this trade stupidly...he didn't have to sign Oberto and Bonner.

It was an RC trade. Pop was on vacation. Pop was pissed about the trade almost right away. You don't remember the articles last year in preseason where he was pissed? And during the regular season where Pop said watching Scola on the Rockets made him "spit"?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't remember the exact teams that had trade exceptions or salary cap room, but there were a number of options that were discussed around that time. Even if I went back and searched my posts, you wouldn't believe the trades were possible so it's not worth my time.

How the did you bait me on this merry-go-round again.

I figure an actual offer would have been quite easy to remember. Stuff we make up here is quite forgettable, I agree.

[Sense]

I figure an actual offer would have been quite easy to remember. Stuff we make up here is quite forgettable, I agree.

lol 1-0 Chump

[timvp]

I figure an actual offer would have been quite easy to remember. Stuff we make up here is quite forgettable, I agree.

People tend to block tragic events from memory.

[DPG21920]

[The Franchise]

[timvp]

I figure an actual offer would have been quite easy to remember. Stuff we make up here is quite forgettable, I agree.

Alright, I went back and looked. Butler and a first to the T'Wolves for nothing. Beno to the Clippers for one of their partially guaranteed contracts. Sign Scola instead of Bonner.

Luxury tax freedom. Now tell me why this wasn't possible.

Thanks.

That made me laugh. Good one.

[timvp]

Now tell me why this wasn't possible.

Thanks.

Silence?

Game over.

[whottt]

It was an RC trade. Pop was on vacation. Pop was pissed about the trade almost right away.

Link? And whose fault was it that Pop was on vacation?

You don't remember the articles last year in preseason where he was pissed? And during the regular season where Pop said watching Scola on the Rockets made him "spit"?

I definitely remember that article...

Pop said he was pissed he was with the Rockets. Pop didn't say he didn't want to trade Scola. Pop didn't say they turned down better offers. Pop didn't say he didn't okay the trade. There are a many ways you can take what Pop said...

First and foremost was that was the best they could do........

Otherwise...

What you are saying is that Pop believed Scola was a great player and in the 5 years he was in the Spurs system never conveyed this to RC..and so RC cluelessly traded him without ever discussing Scola with Pop or consulting with him before the trade...


Are you seriously making that claim?

[ChumpDumper]

Alright, I went back and looked. Butler and a first to the T'Wolves for nothing. Beno to the Clippers for one of their partially guaranteed contracts. Sign Scola instead of Bonner.

Luxury tax freedom. Now tell me why this wasn't possible.

Thanks.

Tim Duncan for Rashard Lewis straight up is possible.

You're welcome.

When I asked what trade was on the table, I didn't mean what had been dreamed up on this board.

[timvp]

Tim Duncan for Rashard Lewis straight up is possible.

You're welcome.

WTF does that even mean?

Got owned and then throw some wild curve ball to try cause a distraction.

I'll be back to deal with your response and whottt's lack of research later.

Bye.

[Sense]

Hey Whottt bring back the Romain Sato avatar

[DPG21920]

[timvp]

When I asked what trade was on the table, I didn't mean what had been dreamed up on this board.

I told you. You want taped conversations. You owe me my five carnival tickets for getting on this merry-go-round.

Damn it, I knew better. Logical trades don't work. CD requires actual voice audio links.

Alright, this time I'm leaving.

Bye.

[ChumpDumper]

WTF does that even mean?

Got owned and then throw some wild curve ball to try cause a distraction.

I'll be back to deal with your response and whottt's lack of research later.

Bye.

possible <> on the table

I showed you a trade that was possible, but in no way ever been on the table.

Maybe you have deluded yourself into thinking your posts here cons ute published reports of trade rumors; that could just be an extension of the whole referring to yourself in the third person thing.

ChumpDumper asked what other trades were on the table during the window Scola was a free agent. timvp cited his own make believe transaction post as a source for a trade that was on the table.

[Mr. Body]

When Scola was traded my respect for the front office started fading.

[Solid D]

Bottom line is that if I'd known Splitter was going to stay in Europe I wouldn't have been near as supportive of that trade.

Splitter's never been as good as Scola. All you have to do is watch the Tau games that are available to us and see that Splitter has always had great physical attributes but he falls short in the intensity and execution departments. Mr. Potential.

Scola is energy, intensity, effort and skill. He is a great role player. The only thing he lacks is size at the 4. Yeah, Timmy plays the 4 too but most of the time, now, he's the tallest Spur on the floor.

He played well when the Rockets move Luis to the starting 4.... oddly coinciding with a 20+ game win streak. Luis isn't an All-Star, but I know what I see. He's the guy finding the seams and cutting to open spots for easy reverse layups. He's the guy setting nice, physical picks and getting a rebound between three other players with more hops or height.

The Spurs made a bad call and now they have to live with it.

[mystargtr34]

Luis Scola is an absolute stud, he'll be more valuable then Manu in 2 years

[MB20]

The Spurs made a bad call and now they have to live with it.

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[mystargtr34]

Splitter's never been as good as Scola. All you have to do is watch the Tau games that are available to us and see that Splitter has always had great physical attributes but he falls short in the intensity and execution departments. Mr. Potential.

Scola is energy, intensity, effort and skill. He is a great role player. The only thing he lacks is size at the 4. Yeah, Timmy plays the 4 too but most of the time, now, he's the tallest Spur on the floor.

He played well when the Rockets move Luis to the starting 4.... oddly coinciding with a 20+ game win streak. Luis isn't an All-Star, but I know what I see. He's the guy finding the seams and cutting to open spots for easy reverse layups. He's the guy setting nice, physical picks and getting a rebound between three other players with more hops or height.

The Spurs made a bad call and now they have to live with it.

Exactly, Oberto is barely an inch taller then Scola, Duncan pretty much plays center these days for the Spurs - i would even say Scola is a more mobile defender than Oberto - and just absolutely s all over him in the offensive side of the game.

What i dont understand is how 90% of the posters on here saw what we had and how excited everyone was, and somehow the FO s up and trades him for a bit of cap relief and to unload a 'terrible' contract.